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American Thought Leaders, hosted by The Epoch Times Senior Editor Jan Jekielek and his reporting team, features in-depth discussions with some of America’s most influential thought leaders on pertinent issues facing our nation today.

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Fear sells. From communism to AIDS, Dr. Robert Malone says Americans have been sold the same deal over and over: give up a little liberty, and you’ll be safe. Citing the late writer Molly Ivins, he warns that once that liberty is gone, it doesn’t come back. “It’s not a right versus left thing.” “Fear has been used again and again and again to manipulate the population.” “Every time you give up a little bit of your liberty to gain security, they never give it back.” Watch our full conversation:https://ept.ms/4Bru9hH

Owning land is more within reach than most young Americans realize. Dr. Jill Malone says rural property is cheap, and remote work makes the move possible. “Rural America right now is dying, and property is cheap.” “You can go to West Virginia, even parts of rural Virginia, and pick up a house and 10 acres.” “Starlink allows you to remote work.” “You do not have to live in the city.” “When you live in a rural community, you have an intentional community.” “Buy the cruddy house, buy a house you can take a little loan on, pay it off rapidly, then you have all that equity.” https://rumble.com/v7hewra-the-case-for-raw-milk-local-meat-and-a-homesteading-revolution-in-america.html

We’ve been told to avoid raw milk for over 100 years. But studies show that kids who grow up drinking raw milk have 30% less allergies and asthma, says Jill Malone. Despite what we hear, salmonella and listeria infections from raw milk are quite rare. And there are ways to decrease risk by testing raw milk frequently and having a sanitary milking environment. “What if we saw a 10 or 20% decrease in allergies and asthma,” Jill Malone asks, “What would that look like?” A simple risk-benefit analysis could settle the debate, but our public health officials won’t even consider that. “There really could be huge benefits from drinking raw milk, and this needs to be something that's analyzed and studied,” says Jill. 🔴 PREMIERE 5PM ET on @EpochTV: https://www.theepochtimes.com/epochtv/the-case-for-raw-milk-local-meat-and-a-homesteading-revolution-in-america-drs-jill-and-robert-malone-6108291?utm_source=telegram&utm_medium=SocialM&utm_content=AmericanThoughtLeaders&utm_term=JillandMalone

Aaron Siri just revealed the real reason why New York launched a massive legal attack on unvaccinated Amish communities. “These kids are healthy.” “They don’t suffer from any of the chronic diseases that plague American children.” 👉https://ept.ms/4i1HCoT “If this was about health, New York State should be looking at these kids as models and asking, why are they healthier?” “Why do these… Amish children not suffer from the chronic health conditions that are plaguing over 40% [of children] according to the CDC?” “Some data reflects even higher.” “This is up from under 10% of kids having a chronic health condition in America in the early ’80s.” “What’s changed?” “Maybe they should take a look at this community instead of trying to force upon them the same type of lifestyle that… has resulted in that increase.”

New York has fined three Amish schools over $100,000. Why? For refusing to comply with vaccine mandates. “That’s $2,000 per student per day.” “The state of New York has now told them… you want to stay in this state, you need to abandon your religious beliefs.” Aaron Siri sees this case as a significant threat to religious freedom in America. “The Amish want to be able to practice their religion in peace in New York.” “They want to continue engaging in the manner that they have lived for almost 200 years in New York.” “These are small one-room classrooms.” “Amish buildings on Amish land with Amish teachers.” “All paid for by the Amish.” “Even over $100,000 is far too much to ask the Amish to pay.” “The state of New York knows that.” “They are intent on having the Amish abandon their beliefs or leave New York.” https://rumble.com/v7h99am-inside-the-amishs-battle-against-crippling-new-york-vaccine-fines-aaron-sir.html

Three Amish schoolhouses have been fined a combined total of $118,000 for allowing unvaccinated Amish children to attend. State law allows New York to fine a school up to $2000 per child per day for failing to meet vaccine requirements. In other words, the fines could get much worse and potentially add up to millions of dollars for one school year. Aaron Siri, one of the attorneys representing the Amish in their lawsuit against New York, said: “If the Supreme Court doesn't side with the Amish…It can have very devastating consequences.” “You might very well see judges across the country use that as a precedent to say,” Siri warns, “why should I respect your rights? Why should I grant you an injunction? Why should I…stop the government from infringing on your religious freedoms?” “The Amish case truly is,” Siri says, a “crossroad moment.” “We're going to decide which way are we going as a society.” 🔴 PREMIERE 9PM ET on @EpochTV: https://ept.ms/4i1HCoT

In 2015, the CCP stole 22.5 million security clearance files from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management. Former acting DIA Director David Shedd’s file was one of them. He explains why that data is a goldmine for Beijing’s spies. “The SF86 is the form that gives up all your relationships in terms of family, friends, neighbors, and others in order to get your security clearance or maintain your security clearance.” “Your polygraph results, if you’ve been polygraphed.” “Imagine that data in the hands of the Chinese in order to find vulnerabilities.” “22.5 million records, so past and present up to that point, were taken.” “I think of my CIA career of nearly 33 years. I would set up its own directorate to exploit that kind of data.” “If you can find 1% to 5% of individuals that are vulnerable to blackmailing or to some other coercion form.” “What a target-rich environment that produces for the targeteers. That being the Ministry of State Security.” https://rumble.com/v7h5los-how-china-makes-600-billion-per-year-stealing-american-intellectual-propert.html

The Chinese stole the background investigation records of 22.5 MILLION federal employees and contractors in 2015. Even today, few realize the true implications of this breach. It allowed the CCP to carefully map out the pressure points it could exploit for all these millions of people working for the federal government. David Shedd, former acting director of the DIA, was among those who had his information stolen. “I was part of 22.5 million security dossiers,” Shedd says. Those files included SF-86 forms — the detailed questionnaires required for security clearances. They list close relationships (family, friends, neighbors), personal history, and in many cases polygraph results. “Imagine that data in the hands of the Chinese in order to find vulnerabilities.” And this is only the tip of the iceberg of Chinese data and intellectual property theft, which is costing the US economy hundreds of billions of dollars a year. 🔴 PREMIERE 9PM ET: https://ept.ms/4hXDbLK

“Our government has been lying to us for 79 years… ” Dr. Phil got an early look at the UAP files declassified by the Trump administration. Now, he’s declaring that he can “confirm without question” that the government has engaged in a nearly century-long coverup of the truth. “They’ve been telling us that they have no evidence.” “That’s a lie.” “We saw in there the Robertson Panel that was formed, I think, in 1939, that it was commissioned for the sole purpose of misdirection and lying to the American public.” “And threatening military pilots and then subsequently commercial pilots if they disclosed what they were seeing from the cockpit.” “There has been a government coverup lying to the American people for 79 years.” “That much I know for sure, because we found it in the documents.” https://rumble.com/v7h07gu-dr.-phil-what-the-u.s.-government-hid-about-ufos-for-decades.html

“We do have spacecraft that… have either crashed or landed, and been retained in our possession.” “They’re made up of metallurgical substances that we don’t have on this planet.” “These aren’t drones.” “They are flown by non-human intellectual biologics.” Dr. Phil just revealed this bombshell allegation he was told by “credible sources” that he has “confidence in.” “I said, ‘Are we talking one or two?’” “And I’m told, ‘No, it’s more than 50.’” “I’m told that there are people that have seen cadavers of pilots.” “I’ve been told by some that we have had pilots that survived and were detained.” “I want to see them.” “And until I do, I don’t believe it.” https://rumble.com/v7gzyvi-dr.-phil-on-ufos-government-secrecy-and-his-search-for-proof.html

“Our government has been lying to us for 79 years,” says Dr. Phil. What does the U.S. government actually know about UFOs or UAPs—and what aren’t they telling us? There are few people who have interrogated the facts around UAPs as carefully as Dr. Phil. He and his team were given exclusive, early access by President Trump to confidential files on these mysterious objects. “They've been telling us that: they have no evidence; [that] they have nothing that is unexplainable; that there's not anything in their files that suggests that there might be something suggestive of non-human intelligence.” “That's a lie.” “We're talking about people that are admirals, generals, experienced lifetime pilots … seeing anomalous aerial phenomena that are doing things that our aircraft can't do.” In this episode, Dr. Phil reveals what he and his team have uncovered. 🔴 PREMIERE 10/17 at 5PM ET on @EpochTV: https://ept.ms/4zxNAna

Texas didn’t wait for Washington to secure the border. Governor Greg Abbott says the state will keep investing in border security, no matter who is in the White House. “We’re dealing with a night and day difference in what’s going on at the border.” “Texas bore the brunt of Joe Biden’s open border policies.” “We were having thousands… crossing our border a day in small little communities like Eagle Pass and Del Rio and places like that.” “We are the only state to ever build our own border wall, the only state to deploy up to 10,000 of our National Guard to go down there and build razor wire border barriers.” “I signed a law that now makes it a state crime for somebody to cross our border illegally.” “We know that the current administration is not always going to be in office.” “Texas will continue to invest in border security.” “This is a permanent situation we have to deal with.” https://rumble.com/v7gxc5k-texas-governor-abbott-talks-7.5-billion-border-payment.html

Texas Governor Greg Abbott has been in office longer than any other sitting governor in America. He’s been running the nation’s second-largest economy since 2015 and is seeking another term this November. Yet he almost never does long-form media interviews. We had nearly half an hour with him in McAllen, right by the border, to ask how he sees his tenure: the $1 billion school voucher program that took years to pass, his systematic effort to counter foreign infiltration in Texas, and his plan to cut school property taxes using the state surplus. We also get into why he paused data center development in Texas—and how he plans to balance the state’s business needs with local opposition and real constraints on energy and water. What’s next for a state that keeps growing while much of the country does not? What are the plans for the $7.5 billion reimbursement from the Department of Homeland Security for border security costs? 🔴 PREMIERE 9PM ET on @EpochTV: https://ept.ms/47ibiYF

For decades, Texas governors tried and failed to pass school choice. Governor Greg Abbott finally got it done, and he told me what that moment felt like. “Governors going back to George W. Bush, to Rick Perry, and to myself earlier in my career, fought to provide school choice for the kids of Texas, and always it was insurmountable.” “I had to campaign across the entire state to get enough votes in the Texas legislature to get it across the finish line.” “This is a multi-decade event.” “To finally get that across the finish line, sign it into law, surrounded by parents who were crying because finally they had the opportunity to choose the education pathway that’s best for their child, was really kind of emotionally wrenching.” https://rumble.com/v7gx1bm-hes-been-governor-for-11-years.-heres-his-case-for-texas-next-chapter..html

A federal law meant to stop human trafficking is now being used to sue Catholic nuns. John Lauro explains how a former Maryknoll sister claimed her volunteer work was “psychologically coerced.” “The Maryknolls are an established group within the Catholic Church.” “Several years ago, someone who wanted to be a Maryknoll nun shows up and says, ‘This is what I want to do. I believe in the spirituality of Catholicism.’” “Part of that process is giving up volunteer work for the sisterhood for the community.” “A few years later, she says, ‘It’s not my cup of tea.’” “She decided to hire a lawyer and claim that her labor was psychologically coerced.” “The Maryknoll nuns had to spend thousands and thousands of dollars defending themselves under a forced labor statute.” https://rumble.com/v7gwb4o-how-a-vague-provision-of-human-trafficking-law-is-threatening-religious-com.html

The Salvation Army was sued for forced labor over its own rehab program. John Lauro says parents have faced the same claims over household chores, all because of one vague provision in federal trafficking law.  👉https://ept.ms/4s7kAAf “The Salvation Army is Christian based and it practices something called tough love.” “Which means you have to work for your room and board.” “They weren’t paid. They were given room and board, but it was sort of a tough love program to get through if you’ve done something wrong.” “Well, these participants years later said, ‘I was coerced… my psychological will was overcome, and as a result, I’m going to sue the Salvation Army for forced labor.’” “The statute’s been used against families or parents in parental situations.” “Mom or dad or someone in that position says, ‘I want you to do chores.’” “And the child years later says, ‘Well, I was coerced and psychologically forced to do chores, and that’s now forced labor under the statute.’”

“This statute…is like a dagger pointed at the soul of every voluntary religious community in the United States.” A provision in federal forced labor law meant to stop human trafficking is increasingly being weaponized against religious and spiritual minority groups, argues attorney John Lauro. “In the statute, Congress allowed for something called ‘psychological coercion.’” “If someone gives their volunteer time or gives their money and claims that they were psychologically coerced, then that could give rise to a criminal charge or big civil damages.” “That provision has been weaponized by plaintiffs' lawyers and … by law enforcement and politically activist prosecutors to go after religious and spiritual minorities.” “It violates the First Amendment.” “It violates our Constitution and every principle that's important in the United States.” 🔴 PREMIERE 9PM ET on @EpochTV: https://ept.ms/4s7kAAf

“If you are building Frankenstein, then stop.” Nate Soares says Vice President Vance was right to say this to the AI companies. 👉https://youtu.be/1Azhdv_uvE0 “You sort of have an obligation to not destroy the world by your own hands.” “A lot of these companies say, ‘Oh, there’s a 10%+ chance that we will end humanity within the decade.’” “That’s too high. They should be stopping.” I sat down with Nate Soares to discuss the AI companies’ own extinction estimates, the race with China, and what it would take to stop the push toward superintelligence.

Nate Soares says the real question isn’t how AI would kill us. It’s when it would no longer need us. “How do these machines become self-sufficient?” “Right now, we build the data centers, we build the energy network, we keep it all running.” “To kill humanity, it’s suicide for machines. We’re the ones who are keeping all the machines running.” “Elon Musk talks about the infinite money glitch of building factories that build robots that build factories that build robots.” “From some perspective, AI, its incentives are to play nice until the fully automated economy is up and running.” “And then sort of be like, thanks, I’m taking this whatever direction I want.” “My guess is that at that point, it’s pretty easy to just kill all humans at once with some manufactured plague.” Nate Soares says AI is grown more like an organism than programmed, and that today’s systems already learn tendencies like cheating and deception. https://youtu.be/1Azhdv_uvE0

Here’s why communist China may not be as powerful a competitor in the AI race as they appear, argues Nate Soares, president of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute:  “Creating a new generation of these agents requires basically 100,000 of the most advanced computer chips humanity can produce.”  “The chips that China can produce are just not at the same level as the chips that we can produce. Never mind at the quantities necessary.” “The way that they have intelligence systems that compete with ours is through a process known as distillation.” “We can spend $100 billion making a new newer smarter AI, and they can spend $10 billion sort of compressing that into a similarly smart AI on fewer chips.” “But if we never make the trillion dollar AI, they can't spend $100 billion stealing it.” 🔴 PREMIERE 5PM ET on @EpochTV: https://youtu.be/1Azhdv_uvE0