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Now, if some Hanafi still insists on a charitable take on such attributions by Quduri or Sarakhsi (of which he has dozens in al-Mabsut), then be careful what you wish for - you just might get it. Just look at what they're discussing here. They're discussing a Hanafi taking from a non-Hanafi, or - mortifyingly enough - going to the Hadith directly. The former results in Kaffarah being eliminated in the case of cupping. The latter - according to Jassas but also the narration ascribed by Sarakhsi to Muhammad (and by Kasani to Hasan ibn Ziyad in ุจุฏุงุฆุน ุงู„ุตู†ุงุฆุน) - also results in the same. Why is this an issue? Because it violates the golden calf of Taqlid Shakhsi, of course, as they all consider a Hanabli Mufti's fatwa for this Hanafi layman to be strong enough to mitigate expiation. While discussing this, nobody every reprimanded this Hanafi layman for having approached the Hanbali Mufti (or the Hadith) directly. They discuss it in a formalistic way and move on.

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ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุจู†ูŠ ุนู„ู‰ ุฃู† ุงู„ุฅูุทุงุฑ ุจุงู„ุญุฌุงู…ุฉ ุนู„ู‰ ุฎู„ุงู ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงุณุŒ ูˆู‚ุฏ ุชู‚ุฏู… ุฃู†ู‡ ุนู„ู‰ ูˆูู‚ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงุณ ุงู„ุตุญูŠุญ/ุ› ู„ุฃู† ุฅุฎุฑุงุฌ ุงู„ุฏู… ุจู…ู†ุฒู„ู‡ ุฅุฎุฑุงุฌ ุงู„ุทุนุงู… ุจุงู„ุงุณุชู‚ุงุกุŒ ูˆุจู…ู†ุฒู„ุฉ ุฅุฎุฑุงุฌ ุงู„ู…ู†ูŠ ุจุงู„ู…ุจุงุดุฑุฉุŒ ูˆุจุบูŠุฑู‡ุง ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุตุญูŠุญุŒ ูˆุจู…ู†ุฒู„ุฉ ุฏู… ุงู„ุญูŠุถ ูˆุงู„ู†ูุงุณุŒ ูู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงุณ ุฅู† ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ุฃุนู„ู‰ ู…ู† ู‚ูŠุงุณ ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุนุงู…ุฏ ูู„ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ุฏูˆู†ู‡ุŒ ูƒูŠู ูˆู‡ูˆ ู…ุคูŠุฏ ุจุงู„ู†ุต ุงู„ุฏุงู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุตุญุชู‡ ูˆูุณุงุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงุณ. ู‚ูˆู„ู‡: (ูˆู„ูˆ ุจู„ุบู‡ ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ูˆุงุนุชู…ุฏู‡ (ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุญุฏูŠุซ "ุฃูุทุฑ ุงู„ุญุงุฌู… ูˆุงู„ู…ุญุฌูˆู…) (ููƒุฐู„ูƒ ุนู†ุฏ ู…ุญู…ุฏ ุฑุญู…ู‡ ุงู„ู„ู‡). ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุฃู†ู‡ ู„ุง ูƒูุงุฑุฉ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุฅุฐุง ุงุญุชุฌู… ุซู… ุฃูƒู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุธู† ุฃู† ุงู„ุญุฌุงู…ุฉ ูุทุฑุชู‡ ู…ุนุชู…ุฏุงู‹ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ. (ู„ุฃู† ู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ุฑุณูˆู„ ู„ุง ูŠู†ุฒู„ ุนู† ู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ู…ูุชูŠ). ููŠ ุงู„ุนุจุงุฑุฉ ู…ุณุงู…ุญุฉุŒ ุจู„ ู‡ูŠ ุฎุทุฃ ูˆุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุฃุนุธู… ู…ู† ุฐู„ูƒ! (ูˆุนู† ุฃุจูŠ ูŠูˆุณู ุฎู„ุงู ุฐู„ูƒ) - ูŠุนู†ูŠ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ูƒูุงุฑุฉ- (ู„ุฃู† ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุนุงู…ูŠ ุงู„ุงู‚ุชุฏุงุก ุจุงู„ูู‚ู‡ุงุก ู„ุนุฏู… ุงู„ุงู‡ุชุฏุงุก ููŠ ุญู‚ู‡ ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุนุฑูุฉ ุงู„ุฃุญุงุฏูŠุซ). ููŠ ุชุนู„ูŠู„ู‡ ู†ุธุฑ ูุฅู† ุงู„ู…ุณุฃู„ุฉ ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู†ุช ู…ุณุฃู„ุฉ ู†ุฒุงุน ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุนู„ู…ุงุกุŒ ูˆู‚ุฏ ุจู„ุบ ุงู„ุนุงู…ูŠ ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุงุญุชุฌ ุจู‡ ุงู„ูุฑูŠู‚ูŠู† ูุฃุฎุฐ ุจู‡ ูƒูŠู ูŠู‚ุงู„ ููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุฅู†ู‡ ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุนุฐูˆุฑุŸ ูุฅู† ู‚ูŠู„: ู‡ูˆ ู…ู†ุณูˆุฎุŒ ูู‚ุฏ ุชู‚ุฏู… ุฃู† ุงู„ู…ู†ุณูˆุฎ ู…ุง ูŠุธู† ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠุนุงุฑุถู‡. ูˆู…ู† ุณู…ุน ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ุงู„ุตุญูŠุญ ูุนู…ู„ ุจู‡ ูˆู‡ูˆ ู…ู†ุณูˆุฎ ูู‡ูˆ ู…ุนุฐูˆุฑ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃู† ูŠุจู„ุบู‡ ุงู„ู†ุงุณุฎุŒ ูˆู„ุง ูŠู‚ุงู„ ู„ู…ู† ุณู…ุน ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ุงู„ุตุญูŠุญ: ู„ุง ุชุนู…ู„ ุจู‡ ุญุชู‰ ุชุนุฑุถู‡ ุนู„ู‰ ุฑุฃูŠ ูู„ุงู† ุฏูˆู† ุฑุฃูŠ ูู„ุงู†ุŒ ูˆุฅู†ู…ุง ูŠู‚ุงู„ ู„ู‡: ุงู†ุธุฑ ู‡ู„ ู‡ูˆ ู…ู†ุณูˆุฎ ุฃู… ู„ุงุŸ ุฃู…ุง ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ู‚ุฏ ุงุฎุชู„ู ููŠ ู†ุณุฎู‡ ูƒู…ุง ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ุณุฃู„ุฉ ูุงู„ุนุงู…ู„ ุจู‡ ููŠ ุบุงูŠุฉ ุงู„ุนุฐุฑุŒ ูˆุฅู† ุชุทุฑู‚ ุงู„ุงุญุชู…ุงู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฎุทุฃ ุงู„ู…ูุชูŠ ุฃู‚ูˆู‰ ู…ู† ุชุทุฑู‚ ุงู„ุงุญุชู…ุงู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ู†ุณุฎ ู…ุง ูŠุณู…ุนู‡ ู…ู† ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ. ู‚ุงู„ ุฃุจูˆ ุนู…ุฑ ุจู† ุนุจุฏ ุงู„ุจุฑ ู„ู…ุง ุฐูƒุฑ ู‚ูˆู„ ุฑุณูˆู„ ุงู„ู„ู‡ -ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู…- (ู„ุง ุชุณุชู‚ุจู„ูˆุง ุงู„ู‚ุจู„ุฉ ุจุบุงุฆุธ ูˆู„ุง ุจูˆู„ ูˆู„ุง ุชุณุชุฏุจุฑูˆู‡ุง): ู‚ุงู„ ุฃุจูˆ ุฃูŠูˆุจ: ูู‚ุฏู…ู†ุง ุงู„ุดุงู… ููˆุฌุฏู†ุง ู…ุฑุงุญูŠุถ ู‚ุฏ ุจู†ูŠุช ู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ู‚ุจู„ุฉ ูู†ู†ุญุฑู ุนู†ู‡ุง ูˆู†ุณุชุบูุฑ ุงู„ู„ู‡. ูˆู‡ูƒุฐุง ูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ู‰ ูƒู„ ู…ู† ุจู„ุบู‡ ุดูŠุก ูŠุณุชุนู…ู„ู‡ ุนู„ู‰ ุนู…ูˆู…ู‡ ุญุชู‰ ูŠุซุจุช ุนู†ุฏู‡ ู…ุง ูŠุฎุตู‡ ุฃูˆ ูŠู†ุณุฎู‡ุŒ ุงู†ุชู‡ู‰. ูˆู‚ุงู„ ุงู„ุดุงูุนูŠ ุฑุญู…ู‡ ุงู„ู„ู‡: ุฃุฌู…ุน ุงู„ู…ุณู„ู…ูˆู† ุนู„ู‰ ุฃู† ู…ู† ุงุณุชุจุงู†ุช ู„ู‡ ุณู†ุฉ ุฑุณูˆู„ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู… ู„ู… ูŠุญู„ ู„ู‡ ุฃู† ูŠุฏุนู‡ุง ูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุฃุญุฏ. ูˆุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ูุฅู† ุงู„ู…ู†ุณูˆุฎ ู…ู† ุงู„ุณู†ุฉ ููŠ ุบุงูŠุฉ ุงู„ู‚ู„ุฉุŒ ูˆู‚ุฏ ุฌู…ุนู‡ ุงุจู† ุงู„ุฌูˆุฒูŠ ููŠ ูˆุฑู‚ุงุช ูˆู‚ุงู„: ุฅู†ู‡ ุฃูุฑุฏ ููŠู‡ุง ู‚ุฏุฑ ู…ุง ุตุญ ู†ุณุฎุฉ ุฃูˆ ุงุญุชู…ู„ุŒ ูˆุฃุนุฑุถ ุนู…ุง ู„ุง ูˆุฌู‡ ู„ู†ุณุฎู‡ ูˆู„ุง ุงุญุชู…ุงู„ุŒ ูˆู‚ุงู„: ูู…ู† ุณู…ุน ุจุฎุจุฑ ูŠุฏุนู‰ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ู†ุณุฎ ูˆู„ูŠุณ ููŠู‡ุง ูู‡ุงุชูŠูƒ ุฏุนูˆู‰. ุซู… ู‚ุงู„: ูˆู‚ุฏ ุชุฏุจุฑุชู‡ ูุฅุฐุง ู‡ูˆ ุฃุญุฏ ูˆุนุดุฑูˆู† ุญุฏูŠุซุงู‹. ูˆุฐูƒุฑู‡ุง. ูˆุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุนุงู…ูŠ ูŠุณูˆุบ ู„ู‡ ุงู„ุฃุฎุฐ ุจู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ู…ูุชูŠ ุจู„ ูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ู…ุน ุงุญุชู…ุงู„ ุฎุทุฃ ุงู„ู…ูุชูŠุŒ ูƒูŠู ู„ุง ูŠุณูˆุบ ู„ู‡ ุงู„ุฃุฎุฐ ุจุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ุฅุฐุง ูู‡ู… ู…ุนู†ุงู‡ ูˆุฅู† ุงุญุชู…ู„ ุงู„ู†ุณุฎุŸ ูˆู„ูˆ ูƒุงู†ุช ุณู†ู† ุฑุณูˆู„ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู… ู„ุง ูŠุณูˆุบ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ุจู‡ุง ุจุนุฏ ุตุญุชู‡ุง ุญุชู‰ ูŠุนู…ู„ ุจู‡ุง ูู„ุงู† ูˆูู„ุงู† ู„ูƒุงู† ู‚ูˆู„ู‡ู… ุดุฑุทุงู‹ ููŠ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ุจู‡ุง ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู…ู† ุฃุจุทู„ ุงู„ุจุงุทู„. ูˆู‚ุฏ ุฃู‚ุงู… ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุงู„ุญุฌุฉ ุจุฑุณูˆู„ู‡ ุฏูˆู† ุขุญุงุฏ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฉ. ูˆู„ุง ูŠูุฑุถ ุงุญุชู…ุงู„ ุฎุทุฃ ู„ู…ู† ุนู…ู„ ุจุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ูˆุฃูุชู‰ ุจู‡ ุจุนุฏ ูู‡ู…ู‡ ุฅู„ุง ูˆุฃุถุนุงู ุฃุถุนุงูู‡ ุญุงุตู„ ู„ู…ู† ุฃูุชู‰ ุจุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏ ู…ู† ู„ุง ูŠุนู„ู… ุฎุทุคู‡ ู…ู† ุตูˆุงุจู‡ุŒ ูˆูŠุฌูˆุฒ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ุชู†ุงู‚ุถ ูˆุงู„ุงุฎุชู„ุงู„ุŒ ูˆูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ ูˆูŠุฑุฌุน ุนู†ู‡ุŒ ูˆูŠุญูƒู‰ ุนู†ู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุณุฃู„ุฉ ุนุฏุฉ ุฃู‚ูˆุงู„. ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูƒู„ู‡ ููŠู…ู† ู„ู‡ ู†ูˆุน ุฃู‡ู„ูŠุฉุ› ุฃู…ุง ุฅุฐุง ู„ู… ูŠูƒู† ู„ู‡ ุฃู‡ู„ูŠุฉ ู‚ุท ููุฑุถู‡ ู…ุง ู‚ุงู„ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุชุนุงู„ู‰: {ููŽุงุณู’ุฃูŽู„ููˆุง ุฃูŽู‡ู’ู„ูŽ ุงู„ุฐูู‘ูƒู’ุฑู ุฅูู†ู’ ูƒูู†ู’ุชูู…ู’ ู„ุง ุชูŽุนู’ู„ูŽู…ููˆู†ูŽ}. ูˆุฅุฐุง ุฌุงุฒ ุงุนุชู…ุงุฏ ุงู„ู…ุณุชูุชูŠ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุง ูŠูƒุชุจู‡ ู„ู‡ ุงู„ู…ูุชูŠ ู…ู† ูƒู„ุงู…ู‡ ุฃูˆ ูƒู„ุงู… ุดูŠุฎู‡ ูˆุฅู† ุนู„ุง ูู„ุฃู† ูŠุฌูˆุฒ ุงุนุชู…ุงุฏ ุงู„ุฑุฌู„ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุง ูƒุชุจ ุงู„ุซู‚ุงุช ู…ู† ูƒู„ุงู… ุฑุณูˆู„ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู… ุฃูˆู„ู‰ ุจุงู„ุฌูˆุงุฒ. ูˆุฅุฐุง ู‚ุฏุฑ ุฃู†ู‡ ู„ู… ูŠูู‡ู… ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ููƒู…ุง ู„ูˆ ู„ู… ูŠูู‡ู… ูุชูˆู‰ ุงู„ู…ูุชูŠ ููŠุณุฃู„ ู…ู† ูŠุนุฑูู‡ ู…ุนู†ุงู‡ ูƒู…ุง ูŠุณุฃู„ ู…ู† ูŠุนุฑูู‡ ุฌูˆุงุจ ุงู„ู…ูุชูŠ. ู‚ูˆู„ู‡: ([ูˆุฅุฐุง ุนุฑู ุชุฃูˆูŠู„ู‡ ุชุฌุจ ุงู„ูƒูุงุฑุฉ ู„ุงู†ุชูุงุก ุงู„ุดุจู‡ุฉุŒ ูˆู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ุฃูˆุฒุงุนูŠ ู„ุง ูŠูˆุฑุซ ุงู„ุดุจู‡ุฉ ู„ู…ุฎุงู„ูุชู‡ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงุณ]). ุชู‚ุฏู… ุฃู† ุงู„ุญุฌุงู…ุฉ ูŠูุทุฑ ุจู‡ุง ุงู„ุญุงุฌู… ูˆุงู„ู…ุญุฌูˆู… ุนู†ุฏ ุงู„ุฅู…ุงู… ุฃุญู…ุฏุŒ ูˆุฅุณุญุงู‚ ุงุจู† ุฑุงู‡ูˆูŠู‡ุŒ ูˆู…ุญู…ุฏ ุจู† ุฎุฒูŠู…ุฉุŒ ูˆุนุทุงุกุŒ ูˆุงู„ุฃูˆุฒุงุนูŠุŒ ูˆู…ุณุฑูˆู‚ุŒ ูˆุงู„ุญุณู†ุŒ ูˆุงุจู† ุณูŠุฑูŠู†ุŒ ูˆุงุจู† ุงู„ู…ู†ุฐุฑุŒ ูˆุนุจุฏ ุงู„ุฑุญู…ู† ุจู† ู…ู‡ุฏูŠ. ูˆุชู‚ุฏู… ุฐูƒุฑ ู…ุง ุงุณุชุฏู„ูˆุง ุจู‡ ู…ู† ุงู„ุณู†ุฉุŒ ูˆุงู„ู‚ูŠุงุณ ุงู„ุตุญูŠุญุŒ ููƒูŠู ูŠูƒูˆู† ู‚ูˆู„ ู‡ุคู„ุงุก ู…ุน ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุฏู„ูŠู„ ู„ุง ูŠูˆุฑุซ ุงู„ุดุจู‡ุฉ ูˆู‡ูˆ ู…ูˆุงูู‚ ู„ู„ู‚ูŠุงุณ ุบูŠุฑ ู…ุฎุงู„ู ู„ู‡ ูƒู…ุง ุชู‚ุฏู…ุŸ!

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As I was researching the points above, I looked at the chronology of progression in the discussion in the Hanafi works. Prior to Sarakhsi, discussion was minimal, with a simple reference to Kaffarah being cancelled if a person ate wilifully after having ate forgetfully, as per al-Asl and al-Kafi. The same was applied by Jassas to cupping if a person became aware of the hadith on the subject, or he consulted a Hanbali Mufti (who would say the fast would have broken). But Quduri comes along as started adding clutter to the discussion. In his commentary on Karkhi, he said: ูจูฅูฃ - : [ููŽุตู’ู„: ุธูŽู†ู‘ู ุงู„ุตุงุฆู… ุฃู†ู‘ ููุนู’ู„ู‡ ู…ููู’ุทุฑ ุซู… ุชุนู…ุฏ ุงู„ุฅูุทุงุฑ] ูˆูƒุฐู„ูƒ ุฅุฐุง ุฃูƒู„ ุฃูˆ ุดุฑุจ ุฃูˆ ุฌุงู…ุน (ูก) ู†ุงุณูŠู‹ุงุŒ ุฃูˆ ุฐุฑุนู‡ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุกุŒ ูุธู†ู‘ ุฃู† ุฐู„ูƒ ูŠูุทุฑู‡ุŒ ูุฃูƒู„ ุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุชุนู…ุฏู‹ุงุŒ ูุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ู‚ุถุงุกุŒ ูˆู„ุง ูƒูุงุฑุฉ ุนู„ูŠู‡. ู‚ุงู„ ู…ุญู…ุฏ: ุฅู„ุง ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ุจู„ุบู‡ ุงู„ุฎุจุฑุŒ ูŠุนู†ูŠ: ุฃู†ู‘ ุฃูƒู„ ุงู„ู†ุงุณูŠ ู„ุง ูŠูุทุฑุŒ ูˆุฃู†ู‘ ู…ู† ุฐุฑุนู‡ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุก ู„ุง ูŠูุทุฑ. ูˆุงู„ุฃุตู„ ููŠ ู‡ุฐุงุŒ ู…ุง ุจูŠู‘ูŽู†ุง: ุฃู†ู‘ ุงู„ูƒูุงุฑุฉ ุชุคุซุฑ ููŠู‡ุง ุงู„ุดุจู‡ุฉุŒ ูˆุงู„ุดุจู‡ุฉ ุฅุฐุง ุงุณุชู†ุฏุช ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃุตู„ ุชุนู„ู‘ู‚ ุจู‡ุง ุงู„ุญูƒู…ุŒ ูˆุฅู„ุง ู„ู… ูŠุชุนู„ู‘ู‚ ุจู‡ุงุŒ ูˆุฃูƒู„ ุงู„ู†ุงุณูŠ ูˆุงู„ู‚ูŠุก ูŠู†ุงููŠ ุงู„ุฅู…ุณุงูƒ ููŠ ุงู„ุธุงู‡ุฑุŒ ูุฅุฐุง ุธู†ู‘ ุฃู†ู‘ู‡ ู‚ุฏ ุฃูุทุฑุŒ ูุงู„ุดุจู‡ุฉ ู…ุณุชู†ุฏุฉูŒ [ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃุตู„ู]ุ› ูู„ุง ูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ูƒูุงุฑุฉ. ู‚ุงู„: ูุฅู† ุงุญุชุฌู…ุŒ ุฃูˆ ูุนู„ ู†ุญูˆ ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ู…ู‘ุง ุงุฎุชู„ู ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ููŠ ุนู…ุฏู‡: ู‡ู„ ูŠูุทุฑ ุฃู… ู„ุงุŸุŒ ูุฅู† ุฐู„ูƒ ู„ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ุนูุฐุฑู‹ุง ูˆู„ุง ุดุจู‡ุฉู‹ุŒ ุฅุฐุง ุชุนู…ุฏ ุจุนุฏู‡ ุงู„ุฃูƒู„ ูˆู‚ุฏ ุธู†ู‘ ุฃู†ู‘ ุงู„ุญุฌุงู…ุฉ ุชูุทุฑู‡ุŒ ุฅู„ุง ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ุฃููุชูŠ ุจุฃู†ู‘ู‡ ู‚ุฏ ุฃูุทุฑุŒ ุฃูˆ ูŠูƒูˆู† ู…ู…ู† ุณู…ุน ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซ ุฃู†ู‘ ุงู„ุญุฌุงู…ุฉ ุชูุทุฑู‡ุŒ ูุชุณู‚ุท ุนู†ู‡ ุงู„ูƒูุงุฑุฉุ› ูˆุฐู„ูƒ ู„ุฃู†ู‘ ุงู„ุญุฌุงู…ุฉ ู„ุง ุชู†ุงููŠ ุงู„ุฅู…ุณุงูƒ ููŠ ุงู„ุธุงู‡ุฑุŒ ูุฅุฐุง ุธู†ู‘ ุฃู†ู‘ู‡ุง ุชูุทู‘ุฑู‡ุŒ ูุดุจู‡ุฉูŒ ู„ู… ุชุณุชู†ุฏ ุฅู„ู‰ ุณุจุจูุŒ ูู„ุง ุชุณู‚ุท ุนู†ู‡ ุงู„ูƒูุงุฑุฉ. ูุฃู…ู‘ุง ุฅุฐุง ุงุณุชูุชู‰ ูู‚ูŠู‡ู‹ุง ูู‡ูˆ ู…ุนุฐูˆุฑูŒุ› ู„ุฃู†ู‘ ุงู„ุนุงู…ูŠ ูŠู„ุฒู…ู‡ ุงู„ุฑุฌูˆุน ุฅู„ู‰ [ูุชูˆู‰] ุงู„ูู‚ูŠู‡ (ูฃ)ุŒ ูˆู‚ุฏ ุฃูุชุงู‡ ุจู…ุง ุงุฎุชู„ู ููŠู‡ ุงู„ูู‚ู‡ุงุกุŒ ูุตุงุฑ ุฐู„ูƒ ุนุฐุฑู‹ุง. ูุฃู…ู‘ุง ุฅุฐุง ูƒุงู† ุจู„ุบู‡ ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซุŒ ูู‚ุฏ ุฑูˆู‰ ุงู„ุญุณู† ุนู† ุฃุจูŠ ุญู†ูŠูุฉ: ุฃู†ู‘ู‡ ู„ุง ูƒูุงุฑุฉ ุนู„ูŠู‡ุ› ู„ุฃู†ู‘ ุงู„ุฅู†ุณุงู† ูŠุฌุจ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ุฃุฎุฐ ุจุญุฏูŠุซ ุฑุณูˆู„ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ๏ทบุŒ ูุฅุฐุง ุณู…ุนู‡ ูˆุนู…ู„ ุจู‡ุŒ ุงุณุชู†ุฏุช ุดุจู‡ุชู‡ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃุตู„ู. ูˆุฑูˆู‰ ุงุจู† ุณู…ุงุนุฉ ูˆุจุดุฑุŒ ุนู† ุฃุจูŠ ูŠูˆุณู: ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุญุชุฌู… ุฅุฐุง ุฃูุทุฑ ุจุญุฏูŠุซ: " ุฃูุทุฑ ุงู„ุญุงุฌู… ูˆุงู„ู…ุญุฌูˆู…"ุŒ ูุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ู‚ุถุงุก ูˆุงู„ูƒูุงุฑุฉ ู…ู† ู‚ูุจู„ ุฃู† ุฌู…ุงุนุฉูŽ ุงู„ูู‚ู‡ุงุก ุฃุฌู…ุนูˆุง ุนู„ู‰ ุฃู†ู‘ ุงู„ุญุฌุงู…ุฉ ู„ุง ุชูุทุฑู‡. ูˆูˆุฌู‡ ุฐู„ูƒ: ุฃู†ู‘ ุงู„ุนุงู…ูŠู‘ ุฅุฐุง ุณู…ุน ุฎุจุฑู‹ุงุŒ ู„ุง ูŠุฌูˆุฒ ู„ู‡ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ ุจู‡ุ› ู„ุฃู†ู‘ู‡ ู„ุง ูŠุฃู…ู† ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู…ุตุฑูˆูู‹ุง ุนู† ุธุงู‡ุฑู‡ุŒ ุฃูˆ ู…ู†ุณูˆุฎู‹ุงุŒ ูู…ุชู‰ ุฑุฌุน ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุง ู„ุง ูŠุฌูˆุฒ ู„ู‡ ุงู„ุฑุฌูˆุน ุฅู„ูŠู‡ุŒ ู„ู… ูŠุนุฐุฑ. I have a strong reservation on Abu Yusuf having every suggested such a thing. The quality of the view ascribed to Abu Yusuf - that he obligates Kaffarah upon a person who based his practice of breaking fast on the Hadith directly - must be called into question. Presumably, the narrations of Bishr and Ibn Sama'ah from Abu Yusuf are found in their non-extant Amali and Nawadir works, respectively. These views are not in the Zahir 'l-Riwayah. The justification offered therein also seems a bit off. I'm unsure whether the justification is from Abu Yusuf, Bishr/IS, or Quduri himself. Presumably it's the latter, as his work al-Tajrid as well as his commentary on Karkhi suggest he has form in creating novel arguments that he would "add on" to the body of evidence and arguments in the school for its pre-existing positions. Such arguments offered by Quduri here seem to be anachronistic for the second-century Chief Justice, or indeed his students. Furthermore, the ascription of consensus to the view of cupping not breaking the fast is false. Also, had there been any traction to these arguments, it would have most certainly been mentioned in the pre-Quduri era. After all, there is a 250-year gap between Quduri and Abu Yusuf. After Quduri, Sarakhsi latched on to the same narrations. The rest, as they say, is history, with most Hanafis blindly rely on Sarakhsi while adding their own flavour to the discussion if they had some originality to them. Marghinani added his own flavour to it in al-Hidayah. Ibn Abi 'l-Izz in his ุงู„ุชู†ุจูŠู‡ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุดูƒู„ุงุช ุงู„ู‡ุฏุงูŠุฉ did offer some commentary opposing the basis of the view ascribed to Abu Yusuf - though even he didn't question the veracity of the attibution: ู‚ูˆู„ู‡: (ูˆู…ู† ุฃูƒู„ ููŠ ุฑู…ุถุงู† ู†ุงุณูŠุงู‹ ูุธู† ุฃู† ุฐู„ูƒ ูŠูุทุฑู‡ ูุฃูƒู„ ุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุชุนู…ุฏุงู‹ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ู‚ุถุงุก ุฏูˆู† ุงู„ูƒูุงุฑุฉุ› ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ุงุดุชุจุงู‡ ุงุณุชู†ุฏ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงุณ ูุชุญู‚ู‚ ุงู„ุดุจู‡ุฉ)ุŒ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃู† ู‚ุงู„: (ู„ูˆ ุงุญุชุฌู… ูุธู† ุฃู† ุฐู„ูƒ ูŠูุทุฑ ุซู… ุฃูƒู„ ุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุชุนู…ุฏุง ู‹ุนู„ูŠู‡ ุงู„ู‚ุถุงุก ูˆุงู„ูƒูุงุฑุฉุŒ ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ุธู† ู…ุง ุงุณุชู†ุฏ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฏู„ูŠู„ ุดุฑุนูŠ ููŠ ุญู‚ู‡).

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A bit of a contradiction between Jassas and Sarakhsi on the wilful breaking of fast post-cupping. Jassas disregards details t
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When the right hand doesn't communicate with the left. You have scans from Sarakhsi and Kasani (the latter moreso than the fo
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When the right hand doesn't communicate with the left. You have scans from Sarakhsi and Kasani (the latter moreso than the former) suggesting the opinion of backbiting breaking the fast is completely baseless and one that cannot oppose consensus...but then you have Kandhlawi casually passing it off as a scholarly view, implying it has some basis. ูˆู„ูˆ ุฌู…ุน ุฃุญุฏู ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุงู„ุฃุตูˆู„ูŽ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชูƒู„ู… ููŠู‡ุง ุตุงุญุจู ูุถุงุฆู„ ุงู„ุฃุนู…ุงู„ ูˆุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุนูˆุฏ ุจุงู„ู†ู‚ุถ ุนู„ู‰ ุดูŠุก ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ูุฑูˆุน ูˆุงู„ุฃุตูˆู„ ูˆุงู„ุฃุฏู„ุฉ ูˆุงู„ู…ู†ุงู‚ุดุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฐูƒุฑู‡ุง ู…ู† ุชู‚ุฏู…ู‡ ู„ุฃุตุจุญ ุฌุฒุกุง ู„ุง ุจุฃุณ ุจู‡

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On Ibrahim al-Nakha'i (d. 96 AH) re: Tilawah and Qira'at: โ€ข He took Qira'at from the direct students of Ibn Mas'ud. His main students in his Qira'ah were A'mash and Talhah ibn Musarrif. Two of his most prominent students' students were Hamzah and Kisa'i, two from the Seven Qurra'. (A number of his readings aligned with Abdullah ibn Mas'ud's now-defunct recitals) โ€ข His recitation was far removed from affectation (takalluf), and he severely disliked artificially raising one's voice when reciting. He would complete the recitation of the Qur'an in seven days. He was strict on the requirement of contemplatation. A man said to him, "I finish the Qur'an every three nights." Ibrahim retorted, "I wish you would complete it over 30 nights so that you are cognizant of what you are reciting." (Important lesson on contemplation even when one is attempting to recite a large amount) โ€ข He would oftentimes use a Mushaf for reciting, and not rely merely on his memory. โ€ข Wherever disbelief and polytheism is quoted in the Qur'an, he would recite it in a lower voice. (Like the verse ู„ู‚ุฏ ูƒูุฑ ุงู„ุฐูŠู† ู‚ุงู„ูˆุง ุฅู† ุงู„ู„ู‡ ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุณูŠุญ ุงุจู† ู…ุฑูŠู…) โ€ข He would never say to a student, "You have made a mistake." Rather, he would say, "Read it this way." (This is in reference to the various readings (Ahruf/Qira'at) when a correct meaning is rendered, even though he personally did not recite it that way. This is not in reference to Tajwid mistakes or outright Hifz errors.) โ€ข He disliked the following items: โ€ขโ€ข teaching Qur'an to children until they reached an age where they could discern socially acceptable behaviours. (Many scholars draw the line at seven years of age) โ€ขโ€ข the usage of dots and diacritics. (There are prints of this, which is useful for Huffaz) โ€ขโ€ข disliked adorning the Qur'an. โ€ขโ€ข using verses to daily situations, taking the verse out of its context to another. (Like ูŠุง ูŠุญูŠู‰ ุฎุฐ ุงู„ูƒุชุงุจ) โ€ขโ€ข mixing up the sequencing of verses in a single Surah. (Like when reading from one part of the Surah then reading from elsewhere, as many Imams do when making up for an error in a previous Rak'ah, previous Salah, or previous day) โ€ขโ€ข the writing of the Qur'an in small physical copies. (In practice nowadays, this opinion is not adhered to but it is worth considering) โ€ขโ€ข the usage of Qur'anic verses as amulets. (There is a difference of opinion on this) โ€ขโ€ข switching up the Qira'at in a single sitting or event (from one harf of one Sahabi/Tabi'i to another; nowadays, it would be one Qira'ah to another.) (Taken from ู…ุฑูˆูŠุงุช ุงู„ู†ุฎุนูŠ ูˆุฃู‚ูˆุงู„ู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ุชูุณูŠุฑ by Khalid Khalifah al-Sa'd)

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The initial proposition offered here on the Mushaf of Madinah, which is roughly 600 pages of Quranic text, was that memorising one page a day would take you to the required destination of Tahfiz in less than 19.5 months. However, upon further analysis, discounting textual repetition (whether like-for-like or similar wordings), Surahs already memorised before the start of Hifz, and double-lines taken up by the starts of the Surahs, it should take 500 days, which is less than 16.5 months. ูˆุจุงู„ู„ู‡ ุงู„ุชูˆููŠู‚

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Naked eye sighting on the night of 19th March, with image verification from California https://x.com/muftiabdullah/status/2034826131338404033

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To add to this: When we see different countries starting the new lunar month over three different solar days (ie days of the week), we can be certain that one of them was outright wrong. Just as the lunar month cannot be 28 or 31 days, the lunar month cannot commence over three solar days. Only two solar days is the legitimate form. If indeed the world is cruising to a potential โ€œstart of monthโ€ split over three solar days, it is the job of a sensible and rational jurist of the Hanafi School (and any school fit that matter) to investigate which one got it completely wrong, NOT to jump at the first claim of sighting and start the lunar month. For Shawwal 1447, we have precisely that - a three-way split: a) Afghan-Niger-Mali on Thursday, b) Arab World-Europe-Morocco-Americas on Friday, and c) Subcontinent-Southeast Asia on Saturday. With the report from Odeh that people from Afghanistan actually saw the waning crescent of Ramadan and believed it to be the waxing crescent of Shawwal, it casts aspersions on the competence of anybody who blindly accepted the Afghan testimony. It is the job of any sensible jurist, judge, and scholar to critically assess all claimed sightings.

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Analysis ^ by Odeh on the early Eid by Afghan, Niger, and Mali.

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ูˆู‚ุฏ ูƒู†ุช ู†ุงุฏูŠุช ู…ู†ุฐ ุณู†ูˆุงุช ุจุฃู† ู†ุฃุฎุฐ ุจุงู„ุญุณุงุจ ุงู„ูู„ูƒูŠ ุงู„ู‚ุทุนูŠ ู€ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู‚ู„ ู€ ููŠ ุงู„ู†ููŠ ู„ุง ููŠ ุงู„ุฅุซุจุงุชุŒ ุชู‚ู„ูŠู„ุงู‹ ู„ู„ุงุฎุชู„ุงู ุงู„ุดุงุณุน ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุญุฏุซ ูƒู„ ุณู†ุฉ ููŠ ุจุฏุก ุงู„ุตูŠุงู… ูˆููŠ ุนูŠุฏ ุงู„ูุทุฑุŒ ุฅู„ู‰ ุญุฏ ูŠุตู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุซู„ุงุซุฉ ุฃูŠุงู… ุจูŠู† ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุจู„ุงุฏ ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู…ูŠุฉ ูˆุจุนุถ. ูˆู…ุนู†ู‰ ุงู„ุฃุฎุฐ ุจุงู„ุญุณุงุจ ููŠ ุงู„ู†ููŠ ุฃู† ู†ุธู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุฅุซุจุงุช ุงู„ู‡ู„ุงู„ ุจุงู„ุฑุคูŠุฉ ูˆูู‚ุง ู„ุฑุฃูŠ ุงู„ุฃูƒุซุฑูŠู† ู…ู† ุฃู‡ู„ ุงู„ูู‚ู‡ ููŠ ุนุตุฑู†ุงุŒ ูˆู„ูƒู† ุฅุฐุง ู†ูู‰ ุงู„ุญุณุงุจ ุฅู…ูƒุงู† ุงู„ุฑุคูŠุฉุŒ ูˆู‚ุงู„: ุฅู†ู‡ุง ุบูŠุฑ ู…ู…ูƒู†ุฉุŒ ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ู‡ู„ุงู„ ู„ู… ูŠูˆู„ุฏ ุฃุตู„ุงู‹ ููŠ ุฃูŠ ู…ูƒุงู† ู…ู† ุงู„ุนุงู„ู… ุงู„ุฅุณู„ุงู…ูŠ ู€ ูƒุงู† ุงู„ูˆุงุฌุจ ุฃู„ุง ุชู‚ุจู„ ุดู‡ุงุฏุฉ ุงู„ุดู‡ูˆุฏ ุจุญุงู„ุ› ู„ุฃู† ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ู€ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุฃุซุจุชู‡ ุงู„ุนู„ู… ุงู„ุฑูŠุงุถูŠ ุงู„ู‚ุทุนูŠ ู€ ูŠูƒุฐุจู‡ู…. ุจู„ ููŠ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุญุงู„ุฉ ู„ุง ูŠุทู„ุจ ุชุฑุงุฆูŠ ุงู„ู‡ู„ุงู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ุงุณ ุฃุตู„ุงู‹ุŒ ูˆู„ุง ุชูุชุญ ุงู„ู…ุญุงูƒู… ุงู„ุดุฑุนูŠุฉ ูˆู„ุง ุฏูˆุฑ ุงู„ูุชูˆู‰ ุฃูˆ ุงู„ุดุคูˆู† ุงู„ุฏูŠู†ูŠุฉ ุฃุจูˆุงุจู‡ุง ู„ู…ู† ูŠุฑูŠุฏ ุฃู† ูŠุฏู„ูŠ ุจุดู‡ุงุฏุฉ ุนู† ุฑุคูŠุฉ ุงู„ู‡ู„ุงู„.

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https://youtube.com/shorts/j1aZ01cd_Mk What this analysis misses as that moonsighting is a rational issue and largely a Madhhab-agnostic issue. What that means is that the first visibility of the crescent is not beholden to the opinion of your Madhhab, scholar, teacher, almanac, or observatory community. The moon moves on regardless of atmospheric conditions either. The moon can become a crescent behind a thick smog, fog, or clouds, smoke, or any adverse atmospheric conditions. As that is the case, that can lead to errors in the beginning and the end of the lunar month. Mitigating those errors is an established truth across the books of all Fuqaha, even though they express this concept differently. One of the tools at their disposal to eliminate error is calculation. The Ahadith that speak about establishing the month have some measures in place. That doesnโ€™t mean other measures to mitigate error are disallowed. The Shariah doesnโ€™t leave the Muslims hamstrung in this issue. The inference from the Hadith ู†ุญู† ุฃู…ุฉ ุฃู…ูŠุฉ to reject calculations as a tool to eliminate error is a false one. Weโ€™ve seen chaos ensue in the Mamluk period and other places where the judge of one school accepted a sighting but it was rejected by astronomers. This is the result of treating the issue as one for the Madhhab. It isnโ€™t. See from here for multiple instances from Muslim history of such chaos ensuing as a result: https://t.me/KnowledgeRevival/16480 If calculation says moonset is before sunset, the testimony of Afghanistan, Niger, Mali - as has unfortunately occurred this year for Shawwal - must be rejected. It is a horrific error as moonset in Kabul wasnโ€™t just a minute or two before sunset (which would have been bad enough). It was almost 20 minutes. Imagine if it was after sunset and people broke fast based on an established calendar (like they always do). Now imagine if a hundred people came along and testified they saw the sun set 10 minutes after the calendar time, and that the fasts of everyone else are invalid, their testimony would be rejected. Now if sunset calculations are accepted here to reject testimony claiming the invalidity of fasts, then moonset calculations should be equally admissible to reject testimony claiming the sighting of the crescent. This is essentially a summary of what the Taqi al-Subki said, which any sane and rational Hanafi would accept. This is what we mean when we say it is a Madhhab-agnostic issue. And calculations are inherently rational. This is also why those who disagreed with Subki didnโ€™t make much sense and nobody has sufficiently proven him incorrect. But even if that isnโ€™t digestible, then these โ€œearly sightingsโ€ are a simple case of testimony versus testimony. One the one hand, you have these Muslim chaps claiming to have seen the moon. On the other hand, you have Muslim astronomers across the world saying this sighting is impossible, and that the moon set at X time. A judge would have to grapple with both testimonies and make a decision. I know what decision any sane judge would make. Itโ€™s not the one issued by the Taliban, the Saudi courts in Riyadh, or the courts of Niamey or Timbuktu. But even if these places have accepted testimony, it isnโ€™t incumbent on a Muslim judge if another country to accept it. Even the khilafah throughout the ages wasnโ€™t some super-centralised judicial system. Judges in courts residing in other jurisdictions have the right to reject and/or overrule court orders from other places, and this is no different. So I ask a very simple question: produce one image of the crescent from Afghanistan, Mali, Niger, if you are truthful. The fact that nobody to their west has seen is a sure sign they got it wrong at best, or are lying at worst. Heck, Afghanistan, Saudi, and Mali wonโ€™t be able to produce a single image even tomorrow, proving how ridiculous their methodologies are. Yusuf al-Qaradawi offered this analysis on calculation usage to discredit false sightings:

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A live-streaming massacre of the Quran on Abdur Raheem Limbadaโ€™s channel. Weโ€™ve seen this before https://www.youtube.com/live/ep_3DOgA7zA

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As for Afghan, double facepalm: https://x.com/i/status/2034318355419562346 They need a collective brain transplant. Those who blindly follow Saudi, pretending to base their practice on global sighting, should observe Eid tomorrow. Why discriminate?

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We had the Saudi bots harping on imagery from their second eve of Ramadan, as if that was some evidence in their favour of their Ramadan start being based on accurate testimony. Letโ€™s see if they have any imagery to produce from the second eve of Shawwal, on Friday night. It will be impossible to view with the naked eye anywhere in Saudi Arabia on the eve after Eid too.

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The narrative from compromised Saudi astronomers this year seems to be that the call for sighting was in spite of impossibility is due to โ€œinstil confidence in the process on establishing the new month.โ€ In addition to two messages above this, see for example this tweet: https://x.com/almisnid/status/2034286417510039716 This is a complete lie. Nobody goes out to witness sunset to โ€œinstill confidence in establishing the time of Maghrib.โ€ Theatrics masquerading as religious verification. From the same people who couldnโ€™t produce a single image for the beginning of the month, and produced clangers like the video attached. That one really instilled confidence, didnโ€™t it?

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So they donโ€™t want to rely on astronomical data of moonset having occurred way before sunset, so instead they make up some br
So they donโ€™t want to rely on astronomical data of moonset having occurred way before sunset, so instead they make up some bravosierra excuse of the sky being overcast. https://x.com/saudinews50/status/2034289908513161557 Naโ€™am, the whole country was engulfed by clouds. We got to see more of the cloudy sky than ever before on this occasion.