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Edom is the Herodian Idumeans from Mount Seir, the descendants of Esau. Advocate for land distribution by genetic ties. Israelites/Persia/Europe, Edom/Babylonia/Africa. The emnity is based on grudges, honesty avoids war. Parody Account only.
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The Herodian Usurpation and the Art of Survival: Why would the Herodian dynasty go into deep hiding?
Because they attempted the ultimate geopolitical coup: usurping the Davidic throne.
○ 125BC: Hasmonean conversion. Edomites / Idumeans forcibly absorbed into Judea.
○ 37BC: The Herodian Coup. Herod the Great usurps the throne, attempts to liquidate the Davidic line (The Massacre of the Innocents).
○ 70 - 100AD: The Roman Collapse. Jerusalem falls. The Herodians, backed by Roman elite, flee to Rome, Southern Italy, and Western trade ports.
○ The Crypo-Elite Strategy: Edomites discard the name "Herod," blend into the Western Diaspora, and preserve the elite Y-DNA (G-M377) via endogamy.
When Herod the Great (an Idumean/Edomite) was installed by the Roman Senate as King of the Jews, he knew his throne was illegitimate in the eyes of Torah-observant Israelites. To secure his usurpation, he ruthlessly hunted down the surviving remnants of the Hasmonean and Davidic bloodlines. The Gospel of Matthew's account of the Massacre of the Innocents was a targeted, clinical attempt by an Edomite king to eliminate the prophesied Messiah of the line of David. When the Jewish-Roman wars culminated in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, the Herodian elite didn't perish in the trenches with the zealots. They were Roman citizens, heavily intermarried with Roman aristocracy.
They took their immense wealth, abandoned the toxic, compromised brand name of "Herod," and dissolved into the western trade ports of Rome, Sicily, and Central Europe. By embedding themselves deep within the emerging Western Jewish diaspora, they achieved perfect cover. To the outside world, they were simply part of the displaced Judean population. But underneath, carrying the ultra-rare, hyper-resilient G-M377 Y-chromosome, they preserved the ancient genetic memory of the Edomite kings, hiding in plain sight, waiting for the curtain to rise on the final geopolitical act.
If we unmask the data and look strictly at the raw distribution of Haplogroup G-M3115 (and its downstream child G-M377), a hidden geographical and linguistic pattern emerges. It bridges the biblical landscapes of the Levant directly to the strongholds of Eurasia. By superimposing our revised timeline, where G-M3115 functions as the patriarchal trunk of Esau/Edom, the modern descendant populations cease to be random anomalies. Instead, they represent a deliberate, aristocratic diaspora strategically positioned along the veins of ancient global commerce.
○ The connection between the Idumean elite and the early Roman senatorial families.
○ The specific biblical geography linking the mountains of Seir to the early migrations into the Caucasus.
○ How modern genetic sequence databases can be audited by independent researchers to bypass mainstream academic filters.
G2a Israelites (Hebrews from Iberia aka Kartli) moved to R1b Egypt from the Caucasus to get away from J2 Arabs (Kura-Araxes 'flood' of J2 into Ararat, and their Canaanite Mokhrablur altars).
Edomites (G2b-M377 e.g. Roth/Herzl/Schwab/Soros/Cohen/Khan/Friedman etc) mixed with Hamites (E1b1b), Canaanites (J1/J2a Arabs) and Neanderthals (N1b Horites/Nesher Ramla).
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G2a Israelites (Hebrews from Iberia aka Kartli) moved to Egypt from the Caucasus to get away from J2 Arabs (Kura-Araxes 'flood' of J2 into Ararat, and their Canaanite Mokrablur altars).
Edomites (G2b-M377 e.g. Roth/Herzl/Schwab/Soros/Cohen/Khan/Friedman etc) mixed with Hamites (E1b1b), Canaanites (J1/J2a Arabs) and Neanderthals (N1b Horites/Nesher Ramla).
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Realizing Europeans are Israel and Ashkenazi are Edom makes the entire sequence of events make sense
This is true, but it's only G2b-M377 who are Semitic (7% of Ash Kenaz, the "Ashkenazi Modal Haplotype" e.g. Roth/Herzl/Soros/Schwab/Friedman/Cohen etc). They're Edomite Semites.
G2a are Israelites. R1b is Egyptian royalty. J is Canaanites.
E is Ham, G is Shem, and IJK are Japeth. The others basically weren't there after the flood except N (Horites/Nesher Ramla). That's my assumption currently.
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Recent Haplogroup G2b-M377 Edomite activity in England
○ G2b-M377 Fox poses with a 100% non-White non-English entourage
○ G2b-M377 Cooper fast tracks asylum seekers while DEI rages
○ G2b-M377 Cohen welcomes Senegalese immigrants while birth rates are all time low
○ G2b-M377 Miller is repping a Nigerian candidate
○ G2b-M377 Rosenberg denied Kanye's entrance
○ G2b-M377 Khan says getting stabbed is part of living in a city
Roth, Herzl, Schwab, Soros, Friedman are all G2b-M377 as well.
Noticing the pattern yet?
Incidentally, G2a is concentrated on every foundational Christian church.
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G2a Israelites and R1b Egyptian Royalty mixed organically and R1b mostly absorbed G2a
The G2a Israelites (aka Hebrews from Iberia aka Kartli) probably moved to Egypt from the Caucasus to get away from J2 Arabs (lookup the Kura-Araxes 'flood' of J2 into Ararat, and the Mokrablur sacrificial site not long after these Arabs arrived there).
Yuya (great grandfather of Tutunkhamem) was a mix of R1b and G2a, and Senenmut is probably Moses since Hyksos were Shepherd Kings.
Edomites (G2b-M377) however, mixed with Hamites, Canaanites (Arabs) and Neanderthals (N1b Horites aka Nesher Ramla).
Anyway TLDR, the Israelite Exodus happened after the Santorini volcano erupted circa 1600BC.
The Edomite Exodus happened in waves after every Israelite captivity that they helped orchestrate, mostly to Dagestan originally.
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Eventually, more people will realize Canaanites (aka Geonim/Kohanim/Afro-Arabs) outnumber Edomites 10x at least
This includes many Muslims, whether you want to admit that or not. Canaanites are fundamentally the root of the entire cabal. This is mostly Haplogroup J1 and J2a, with some E1b1b/N1b Neanderthal (probably Nesher Ramla and Hamadryas). G2b-M377 Edomites are their blood brothers and their enablers, being used for infiltration and optics. While Edomites follow Qos, Canaanites are the source of the similarly archaic Baal cult, aka serpent cult.
The Sumerians debated whether to fully remove the older species (tablet VAT-19084), which I believe they are. They decided not to. The fact that the Edomites worship Saturn (the first sun when the sky was purple) with the Teffelin shows that they are the old species, as I'm sure the Canaanites are as well. The Sumerians created the rest of us to replace them but at the last minute decided to save them since they were created for manual labor.
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An illustration of Jerusalem in 1735
Doesn't look very Arab (aka Canaanite/serpent cult) to me.
It looks exactly how I'd expect it to look, given Haplogroup G Hebrews were originally a Northern Iranic/Eastern Anatolian tribe from near the Caspian Sea and Kartli, aka Iberia.
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Responding to "aren't Yemenis Semites?"
Davidic law: bloodline descendants of Shem (G2a Israelites, G2b Ishmaelites and G2c Edomites changed to G2b-M377)
Africans: "I speak a semitic (European) language"
"Cohen Modal Haplotype": J1/J2
Refer to: https://t.me/edomisidumea/501
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Enmerkar, the Lord of Aratta, and the Spell of Nudimmud
Tablet: ETCSL 1823
Enmerkar, the grandfather of Gilgamesh, invents written language (used only for bookkeeping until then) so that messengers wouldn't forget the message.
The Sumerian Babel seems to be the opposite: the proposal was to speak the same language to settle a disagreement with a king in the East in Southern Iran.
I wonder if the Edomites inverted this to divide, just like they inverted the gods themselves such as Shamash: justice -> slander, Sin (Nanna): wisdom -> usury etc. Bab-ili actually means "Gate of God" in Akkadian, so this tracks as well.
We found proto-cuneiform in Germany last year that's 48,000 years old, and meanwhile Thracians had proto-hieroglyphs in 5000BC (Gradeshnitsa) and the Baltic Dispilio tablet (Phoenician/Paleo-Hebrew/Greek/Celtic/Saxon) is also around 7,000 years old. The proto-cuneiform gives more credence to Sumerian founders Apsu (sweetwater) as the Danube and Tiamat (saltwater) as the Black Sea.
The Greeks credited Prometheus with inventing writing, and Egyptians credited Thoth.
https://youtu.be/YbResaeV5hU?si=E3P_i9FE4g8lRa8U
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Haplogroup G2 originally split into G2a Israelites, G2b Ishmaelites, and G2c Edomites
My overarching position is that G2 was the Sakae who were Iranic near the Caspian and lived in Kartli aka Iberia near Ararat. The Kura-Araxes flood of J2 caused them to migrate to R1b Egypt since J2 brought ritual sacrifice into Ararat (Mokhrablur).
TMRCA is inflated or it would be clear G2a is Israelites (meaning Hebrews aka Iberians), G2b-M377 (Herzl, Roth, Schwab) is Edomites. R1b was Egyptian Royalty (Thracians and Yamnaya) who only left due to Santorini eruption in 1600BC. G2a was absorbed into R1b being mostly in Europe.
Originally it would have been G2a Israelites, G2b Ishmaelites and G2c Edomites, when the church had oversight. G2c was changed to G2b-M377 in 2012. Edomites appear to have mixed with archaic species most likely the Homo Nesher Ramla that was discovered a few years ago, just as J1/J2a Canaanites/Kohanim/Geonim likely mixed with a 2nd archaic species in the Levant (Hamadryas).
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Every letter in the Phoenician alphabet is seen in western european caves going back 50k years. The Rabbis says the fallen Anglos taught everybody how to write.
Written by: Harry McAque
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Sumerian tablet NMI 4082: Enki removed 3 human capabilties 4300 years ago: mind to mind communication, long-distance species recognition, and higher awareness/integrated decision, giving us a longing for connection, and seems to regret it, before they withdrew from earth to observe us.
https://youtu.be/vEdoU3lXDfg?si=j0byp8VhIFGyxWaB
VAT-19084: The Sumerians discuss whether they should remove the older species or not. This is getting very close to what I've been talking about.
Unfortunately it misses the important part that Harry McAque told me, which is that basically Edom = Nesher Ramla and Geonim/Kohanim = Hamadryas.
https://youtu.be/db2FHnkxUrg?si=zpEYyFzKhACDHCWX
Was the Old Testament used to hide deeper truths around species as a revenge/control system
I see the Old Testament as many things, if we assume Elohim is plural then perhaps it was gods playing toy soldiers since Yhwh's people had no land at the time. My friend thinks it's from Yahoo and Yahwee, the Hamadryas Baboon cries (which was sacred in Egypt at one point). The Baboon is born with no foreskin, has harams, and takes child brides. Others think Yhwh is a code for dna or even a reptilian/alien pronunciation. I look at the Old Testament as continuation of a species conflict which was inevitable whether it was Hebrews (Haplogroup G from the Caucasus) or not. The flood was very likely the Kura-Araxes flood of J2 into homogenous Ararat.
Also it was an attempt to collate older Sumerian religion during a time when they had limited means. The parallels are too similar down to sending a dove to scout land etc. Those Sumerian gods were inverted by Nesher Ramla Neanderthal imo, Shamash went from justice to slander, Sin from wisdom to usury etc. Tldr I think Yamnaya ancestors drove Nesher Ramla and a second species Hamadryas Baboon to the Levant, and probably destroyed the male lineage. The Bible is a coverup for an earlier defeat by the Nesher Ramla who is enacting a 300k year revenge because we didn't realize it yet. Egypt was R1b Thracian/Yamnaya until the 1600BC volcano. I think they wrote the Bible to confuse us just like they inverted the Sumerian Gods.
I think 'Edom' is one half of the Hebrews who were captured by Nesher Ramla and forced to breed. The 'flood' was their other species, the Hamadryas aka J2 being sent into Ararat, and G2 was trying to escape to Egypt since they were homogenous.
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Are Data Centers the new Fema Camps/Asylums and are Clones being used for Political Theatre?
If this is true, this is after their last Fema camp attempt, using Walmart was stopped.
This seems to have happened with asylums and subsequent baby incubators several hundred years ago, which seems to be related to the ossuaries in Europe (massive skull collections in caverns underneath the ground).
I've heard multiple people saying JD Vance is a clone and that Palantir is orchestrating the entire political charade, or perhaps when they can. At the same time, it seems Trump is set to expose clones despite yet more UFO, UAP, and NHI distractions.
I'm not ruling out NHI's, etc, but they aren't exposing species, so why would I believe them. Sumerian tablet VAT-9391 supposedly says we'll have a visitor in 2027, but I can't verify if that's real or not.
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Tartaria is essentially the Kingdom of Tartary, a Scythian kingdom directly related to and inhabited by descendants and predecessors of the real Israelites
A small percentage of the real Israelites still lived in Israel after half Edomite half Arab Herod destroyed the priesthood, maybe this is one of them
The Cosmic Order of The Ancients
Before Lahmu, Lahamu, Anshar, Kishar, Anu, and Annunaki, there was Tiamat (saltwater, probably the Black Sea) and Apsu (sweet water, probably the Danube).
Before Tiamat, Apsu, Lahmu, Lahamu, Anshar, Kishar, Anu, and Annunaki there was Namu (self generating sea, perhaps the Arctic / Rupes Nigra).
Before Namu, Tiamat, Apsu, Lahmu, Lahamu, Anshar, Kishar, Anu, and Annunaki, there was Duri and Dari (meaning Forever and Ever, probably from Atlantis, including the Giants Footsteps, Ireland).
The Ancient Order was banished by the Edomites (Kenaz, Amalek, Herod, Roth, Herzl, Schwab, Haplogroup G2b-M377), Homo Nesher Ramla aka Horites who they bred with (e.g Oholibamah, Haplogroup N1b) and Canaanites (Haplogroup J1/J2a).
The Israelites (meaning Hebrews from Iberia aka Kartli, travelling to Egypt through Israel to escape the Kura-Araxes J2 flood into homogenous Haplogroup G Ararat), however, were Haplogroup G2a, just as the Egyptian Royalty were Haplogroup R1b.
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