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Repost from The Chad Pastoralist: History
New paper by McColl et al. (2024) and the origin of the Germanic people.
"We find evidence of a previously unknown, large-scale Bronze Age migration within Scandinavia, originating in the east and becoming widespread to the west and south, thus providing a new potential driving factor for the expansion of the Germanic speech community. This East Scandinavian genetic cluster is first seen 800 years after the arrival of the Corded Ware Culture, the first Steppe-related population to emerge in Northern Europe, opening a new scenario implying a Late rather than an Middle Neolithic arrival of the Germanic language group in Scandinavia."
In 2000-1000 BC Scandinavia, they claim to find three populations:
-A Norweigan cluster primarily carrying Y-haplogroup R1a-Z284 (they call it Early Scandinavian)
-A Danish cluster primarily carrying Y-haplogroup R1b-U106 (they call it South Scandinavian)
-A Swedish cluster primarily carrying Y-haplogroup I1 (they call it East Scandinavian)
The paper suggests that Germanic originated in the "East Scandinavian" cluster, also known as the I1 cluster in the Allentoft paper. This is the same population with hunter-gatherer fathers that migrated into Denmark, bringing with them their Neolithic stone cist burial tradition, replacing the aforementioned Early and South Scandinavian populations.
Moreover, the I1 cluster, ancestral to the Germanic people, didn't just carry different Y-DNA haplogroups to the Early Scandinavian and South Scandinavian clusters, they had different ancestry on the whole. This was an entirely different genetic population.
The paper suggests that the East Scandinavian cluster (the I1 cluster) had a cross-Baltic maritime origin due to the samples being modelled as having 7% Latvian Hunter-Gatherer ancestry. However, based on strontium isotope analysis, it is more likely that they came from East Sweden, possibly Mälaren Valley.
I theorised back in December 2023 before the McColl and Allentoft papers were published that the founding population of the Nordic Bronze Age Scandinavians (now confirmed to be the I1 cluster) were not only of a non-WSH origin (carrying I1 Y-haplogroup lineages of hunter-gatherer origin), but even Germanic originated with these people. It is now settled that Germanic comes from the I1 cluster. First the Allentoft paper, now the McColl paper.
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I just posted a new Youtube video about Mesolithic Europe.
https://youtu.be/iGnXnPfOzXU
Who were Mesolithic Europeans ???
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Repost from TheBeakerLady
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Artistic piece I put together of a Sredny Stog chieftain standing by a kurgan on the Pontic steppe. Sadly I lacked a skull for reference for his face but used a side profile reconstruction of a Sredny Stog man and Yamnaya reconstructions as inspiration.
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I'm going to delete the group chat soon. So hurry up and make your final posts.
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The vote has come in 55% in favor of bringing back Based Fed. Ok, I will bring him back.
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I banned Based Fed from the group chat. Is this unfair? Should I unban him?Anonymous voting
- No, he was a troll
- Yes, bring him back
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You gotta remember
Anatolian farmers reached western Europe by the sailing the Meditereaen sea.
This sailed to Italy and then from there sailed to the coasts of France and Spain.
Now ancient DNA is showing some also sailed to Meditereaen coasts of western Africa.
This makes perfect sense and is very interesting.
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You gotta remember
Anatolian farmers spread across Europe in large part by sailing the Meditereaen sea.
This saild to Italy and then from there sailed to the coasts of France and Spain.
Now ancient DNA is showing some also sailed to Meditereaen coasts of Africa.
This makes perfect sense and is not all that suprising.
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This new study, published in 2023, apparently found an older Neolithic population in Morocco who had more European farmer ancestry than in the study from 2018 by Fregel.
They claim Neolithic population from near Meditereaen sea was around 80% European farmer (which includes 10% Euro Mesolithic admix).
These new samples are not in G25. So i can't look at them myself.
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