Edom is Idumea
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Edom is the Herodian Idumeans from Mount Seir, the descendants of Esau. Advocate for land distribution by genetic ties. Caucasus/G.Tepe/Hebrews/The North, Edom/Babylonia/Africa. The emnity is based on grudges, honesty avoids war. A tangible model of Edom
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I'd place a sizeable bet this is another clone.
In fact I guarantee it.
We need to create a clone detection device ASAP.
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Ask why spellcheckers capitalize Baboon but not its ancestor the Macaque. This is the answer.
@edomisidumea
Edomites are patrilineal
Canaanites are matrilineal
Therefore, Edomites are a patrilineal clan within a matrilineal cult. They are of the Jus Soli nation of "Jews" by their mothers and of the Jus Sanguinis nation by their fathers.
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Responding to "Esau married Canaanites, so descendants are not paternal, they’re maternal, not Israelites"
I understand what you're saying. But you can't "identify as" a lineage you don't have. Esau is a Y-chromosome. All of his descendants carry it. It doesn't matter if they "identify as" Jews. They are still Edomites per law of blood. Ishmaelites are patrilineal. But Ishmaelite women don't carry the Ishmael Y-chromosome. The only person who can be an Edomite is a Y-chromosomal descendant of Esau. Women have no part in determining the patrilineage of their sons. It is an identity carried only on the Y-chromosome. It is a male-specific inheritance.
Edomite male (XY) x Ishmaelite female (XX) = Edomite male (XY). This boy would identify as an Edomite because the culture is patrilineal on both sides of the family.
Edomite male (XY) x Canaanite female (XY) = Edomite male (XY). But this man would identify as a Jew because you inherit language/culture more strongly from the mother, meaning he would identify more with his Canaanite (Jebusite) side.
This is why Jews have no idea who they are as men. They don't identify with their Y-chromosome, which is the only rational identity for a man. There is no Israelite X chromosome. Nor is there an Edomite or Ishmaelite X chromosome. In Jus Sanguinis societies, men get their tribal (nation) identity simply from their father (Y-chromosome). This is consistent all through the Bible. The only issue is when the patrilineal men marry into matrilineal Canaanite tribes and lose their real tribal identity, becoming instead a "citizen" of a piece of dirt.
Written by Orpheus
https://t.me/OrpheusRex
@edomisidumea
Responding to "Esau married Canaanites, so descendants are not paternal, they’re maternal, not Israelites"
I understand what you're saying. But you can't "identify as" a lineage you don't have. Esau is a Y-chromosome. All of his descendants carry it. It doesn't matter if they "identify as" Jews. They are still Edomites per law of blood. Ishmaelites are patrilineal. But Ishmaelite women don't carry the Ishmael Y-chromosome. The only person who can be an Edomite is a Y-chromosomal descendant of Esau. Women have no part in determining the patrilineage of their sons. It is an identity carried only on the Y-chromosome. It is a male-specific inheritance.
Edomite male (XY) x Ishmaelite female (XX) = Edomite male (XY). This boy would identify as an Edomite because the culture is patrilineal on both sides of the family.
Edomite male (XY) x Canaanite female (XY) = Edomite male (XY). But this man would identify as a Jew because you inherit language/culture more strongly from the mother, meaning he would identify more with his Canaanite (Jebusite) side.
This is why Jews have no idea who they are as men. They don't identify with their Y-chromosome, which is the only rational identity for a man. There is no Israelite X chromosome. Nor is there an Edomite or Ishmaelite X chromosome. In Jus Sanguinis societies, men get their tribal (nation) identity simply from their father (Y-chromosome). This is consistent all through the Bible. The only issue is when the patrilineal men marry into matrilineal Canaanite tribes and lose their real tribal identity, becoming instead a "citizen" of a piece of dirt.
Written by Orpheus
https://t.me/OrpheusRex
@edomisidumea
Responding to "Esau married Canaanites, so descendants are not paternal, they’re maternal, not Israelites"
I understand what you're saying. But you can't "identify as" a lineage you don't have.
Esau is a Y-chromosome. All of his descendants carry it. It doesn't matter if they "identify as" Jews. They are still Edomites per law of blood.
Ishmaelites are patrilineal. But Ishmaelite women don't carry the Ishmael Y-chromosome.
The only person who can be an Edomite is a Y-chromosomal descendant of Esau.
Women have no part in determining the patrilineage of their sons. It is an identity carried only on the Y-chromosome. It is a male-specific inheritance.
Edomite male (XY) x Ishmaelite female (XX) = Edomite male (XY). This boy would identify as an Edomite because the culture is patrilineal on both sides of the family.
Edomite male (XY) x Canaanite female (XY) = Edomite male (XY). But this man would identify as a Jew because you inherit language/culture more strongly from the mother, meaning he would identify more with his Canaanite (Jebusite) side.
This is why Jews have no idea who they are as men. They don't identify with their Y-chromosome, which is the only rational identity for a man.
There is no Israelite X chromosome. Nor is there an Edomite or Ishmaelite X chromosome. In Jus Sanguinis societies, men get their tribal (nation) identity simply from their father (Y-chromosome).
This is consistent all through the Bible.
The only issue is when the patrilineal men marry into matrilineal Canaanite tribes and lose their real tribal identity, becoming instead a "citizen" of a piece of dirt.
Written by Orpheus
https://t.me/OrpheusRex
@edomisidumea
Judaism isn't the source of Abrahamic religions though, it was called Hebraism. Because the Talmud was written in 300AD they now call it Judaism. Judeans were Edomites living in the Kingdom of Judah.
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John Kerry was another Edomite with ancestral links to the heroin trade who used a fake name
Kerry isn't his real name, and nor was his fake story about Irish ancestry. He's from a lineage that includes both Moravian Edomite Kohn and Loew. He's an Edomite through and through.
