Edom is Idumea

G-M283: The Karlani Clade of the Edomites The image maps the origins, migrations, and genetic branching of Y-DNA haplogroup G-M283, tracing it from ancient Zagros/Iranian farmer ancestry through G2b, M3115, M377, and Y12297 into Karlani Pashtun lineages, while also showing related Jewish, Central Asian, Levantine, and Eurasian connections, timelines, migrations, and tribal history. Most Karlani Pashtuns who belong to G2b are specifically: G2b → M377 → Y12297 → M3124 → M283 So if someone is M283+, they are automatically: ○ M3124+ ○ Y12297+ ○ M377+ ○ M3115+ ○ G2b+ M3115 is basically the “middle ancestor branch” connecting ancient G2b populations to the later M377/M283 groups. Full lineage: G → G2 → G2b → M3115 → M377 → Y12297 → M3124 → M283 Known Y12297 Subbranches Y12297 → M3124 Y12297 → Y12975 Y12297 → Shughni-related branch @edomisidumea

The latest wewuzzery trend on X is Africans misrepresenting 17th century texts All this proves is their total ignorance of 17th-century literature sensibilities since it's widely known that dark complexion was used to refer to dark hair amongst a generally light haired population. This very clearly means hair colour since many Scythian and Sakae tribes migrated from Iberia in Kartli to the Hebrides. Only God can judge them, dishonesty included (refer to Coop3Big's profile for the epitome of this). @edomisidumea

Haplogroup G2b-M377 (Roth, Herzl, Schwab, Soros, Fink, Friedman, Cohen, Shapiro, Khan, Miller, Cooper etc) was only recently discovered using Kittles protocol. It is the "Ashkenazi Modal Haplotype" and only 7% of all Ashkenazi. Kenaz was the grandson of Esau in Genesis chapter 36. @edomisidumea

In Gematria, 377 translates to "beginning of the end" Haplogroup G2b (G-M377) is Herzl, Roth, Schwab, Soros, Fink, Cohen, Jacobs, Shapiro, Schwartz, Friedman, Goldberg, Rosen, Khan, Goldberg, Greenberg, Miller, Cooper and a small percentage of Smith, Brown and Gordon among others. Only recently discovered, Haplogroup G2b (G-M377) can only be detected with Kittles protocol and is 7% of Ashkenazi males. Kenaz in the Bible was Chief of Mount Seir, Edom (Jordan). We are also told when they abandoned the Timna mines and moved north. Obadiah said the Edomites would be discovered. The search is over. They are "White Arabs" like half J1 Arab Herod. That's why they pursue "Greater Israel" together, which is actually Neo-Babylonia, the origins of tyranny. Esau (Edom) is the end of the era, and Jacob is the beginning of the one that follows. https://t.me/edomisidumea/1419 The Herodians (Idumeans/Edomites) executed the Davidic heir and put an Edomite heir on the throne. The Age of Pisces was ruled by Esau-Edom via the Jews and the Vatican. The Age of Jacob (Aquarius) began February 20, 2026. The Age of the Jews, Illusions, Martyrdom, and Institutional Religion is over.  Catholicism is over. When it starts collapsing, it will sink and capsize fast. All the fraud denominational religionist abomination cults will be destroyed. https://t.me/edomisidumea/2080 2nd part written by Orpheus @edomisidumea

In response to "Why not send your thesis to Rich Tidwell" I've posted G2a Israelites vs G2b-M377 Edomites on his X many times, and he follows me already. I'm not looking for clout, money, or acknowledgment from Edomite institutions. To his credit, he's factored G as a whole into his more recent comments. I acknowledged this when he did that (see edomisidumea post 3511). Until he gets to the level of specificity in the following post, I will remain an amicable skeptic: (see edomisidumea post 420). He's saying R, G, and I are Shem. Only G is Shem. It's a story about Shemites, aka the Sakae tribe, a Northern Iranic/Anatolian tribe who lived near the Caspian Sea and Eastern Turkey, and in Iberia aka Kartli. G2a was mostly absorbed by R1b (Egyptian Royalty), as was I to an extent. He also groups I and J when J is the Canaanites and the serpent cult. J2 came into Ararat with the Kura-Araxes flood, and we see ritual altars there in Mokhrablur not long after. Arabs/Afro-Arabs look just like Canaanite statues, and wear headbands as well. Arabs, Geonim aka Kohanim are Canaanites. He's now saying G, J, I and R are all Shem. Only G is Shem (see edomisidumea post 3511). As for R1b, it was Egyptian Royalty until the 1600BC Santorini volcano erupted. Yuya was Tutunkhamem's great grandfather and was a mix of G2a and R1b. Senenmut was likely Moses, as Hyksos were Shepherd Kings. Israelites were Hebrews from Ararat getting away from J2 Canaanites (Kura-Araxes flood). G2a and R1b are natural allies. It's easily verifiable because the Caucasus including Ararat and Iberia aka Kartli were homogenous Haplogroup G until the Kura-Araxes J2 flood (and as I said Mokhrablur sacrificial altars are only present after the flood). They sold us the Kura-Araxes flood as the older Sumerian one. References: Orpheus, Ralph Ellis, Sumerian tablets, phylogenetics @edomisidumea

The Edomites: Overview 4 Who is Esau/Edom (Jordan)? https://t.me/edomisidumea/42 Why younger generations see through the masquerade https://t.me/edomisidumea/1450 The legacy of Kenaz, Chief of Mount Seir https://t.me/edomisidumea/1439 Haplogroup G2a vs Haplogroup G2b vs Haplogroup J1 https://t.me/edomisidumea/1840 Edomite and Hamite are officially trending again in underground circles https://t.me/edomisidumea/1814 How did they gain power? https://t.me/edomisidumea/1773 Why do they hate Homosapiens the most? https://t.me/edomisidumea/1737 Debunking the Esther/Purim inversion: it was Edomites (again) https://t.me/edomisidumea/1536 Israelite Exodus vs Edomite Exodus https://t.me/edomisidumea/2039 Why did Edomite Herod send a team of assassins to Bethlehem to kill male children? https://t.me/edomisidumea/1930 Spatiotemporal map of Edom https://t.me/edomisidumea/1912 Temporal map of Edom https://t.me/edomisidumea/1913 Why it's much better saying "Edomites aren't Jews" https://t.me/edomisidumea/903 Abridged version https://t.me/edomisidumea/904 "Edomite Hypothesis" by Rich Tidwell https://t.me/edomisidumea/885 Geonic period and Babylonian captivity https://t.me/edomisidumea/2240 Moon God Sin was originally Nanna https://t.me/edomisidumea/2270 Timeline of Edomites and their Talmud https://t.me/edomisidumea/611 Edomite double eagle replaced the Lion and Griffin https://t.me/edomisidumea/2009 The 4 Edomite Mothers https://t.me/edomisidumea/445 Edomites are the evil twin https://t.me/edomisidumea/369 Edomite replacement is widely documented https://t.me/edomisidumea/546 Edomites are not Jews and they worship Qos https://t.me/edomisidumea/698 Israelites versus Edomites https://t.me/edomisidumea/716 The Edomites aren't the Biblical Israelites https://t.me/edomisidumea/1001 Kingdom of Edom (G2b G-M377) vs Kingdom of Judah (G2a) https://t.me/edomisidumea/1104 Mount Seir Edom, Jordan, to Serir in Dagestan https://t.me/edomisidumea/765 Why would you identify Haplogroup G2b (G-M377) as the Edomites https://t.me/edomisidumea/1012 Israelite/Edomite split in simple terms https://t.me/edomisidumea/1182 The brotherly feud https://t.me/edomisidumea/1128 Overviews 1, 2 and 3 https://t.me/edomisidumea/2408 @edomisidumea

Part 2 of my generic replies to the 'disclosure'. Post these yourself to help the awakening Fox is a haplogroup G2b-M377 Edomite surname

Part 1 of my generic replies to the 'disclosure'. Post these yourself to help the awakening Is this the Star of Ishtar? 🌟

Edomite Gatekeepers Tidwell makes some good points but he's unable to identify G2b-M377 (Roth, Herzl, Schwab, Soros, Fink, Cohen, Khan) as the "Ashkenazi Modal Haplotype", only 7% of the tribe, and the only Semites (albeit Edomite Semites). Just like Christogenea, Heretical Logos, Robert Sepehr, Classicist, and others also can't. They are all containment ops until they discuss G2b-M377, which is the only outlier among Ashkenazi. I've called them all out individually on @edomisidumea. Tidwell is also a polygamist, and I personally believe Ralph Ellis that Solomon = Shoshenq (post 1600BC Santorini volcano eruption, or Nubians would never have had the 'treasure'). @edomisidumea

The Herodian Usurpation and the Art of Survival: Why would the Herodian dynasty go into deep hiding? Because they attempted the ultimate geopolitical coup: usurping the Davidic throne. ○ 125BC: Hasmonean conversion. Edomites / Idumeans forcibly absorbed into Judea. ○ 37BC: The Herodian Coup. Herod the Great usurps the throne, attempts to liquidate the Davidic line (The Massacre of the Innocents). ○ 70 - 100AD: The Roman Collapse. Jerusalem falls. The Herodians, backed by Roman elite, flee to Rome, Southern Italy, and Western trade ports. ○ The Crypo-Elite Strategy: Edomites discard the name "Herod," blend into the Western Diaspora, and preserve the elite Y-DNA (G-M377) via endogamy. When Herod the Great (an Idumean/Edomite) was installed by the Roman Senate as King of the Jews, he knew his throne was illegitimate in the eyes of Torah-observant Israelites. When the Jewish-Roman wars culminated in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, the Herodian elite didn't perish in the trenches with the zealots. They took their immense wealth, abandoned the toxic, compromised brand name of "Herod," and dissolved into the western trade ports of Rome, Sicily, and Central Europe. Haplogroup G-M3115 (and its downstream child G-M377) bridges the biblical landscapes of the Levant directly to the strongholds of Eurasia. G2a Israelites (Hebrews from Iberia, aka Kartli) moved to R1b Egypt from the Caucasus to get away from J2 Arabs (Kura-Araxes 'flood' of J2 into Ararat, and their Canaanite Mokhrablur altars). Edomites (G2b-M377, e.g., Roth/Herzl/Schwab/Soros/Cohen/Khan/Friedman, etc) mixed with Hamites (E1b1b), Canaanites (J1/J2a Arabs) and an unknown species (N1b Horites/Nesher Ramla). [Abridged version] @edomisidumea

Josef Retinger: founder of the Bilderberg Conference and co-founder of the European League for Economic Cooperation Retinger's great-grandfather, Filip Rettinger, was a Jewish tailor from Tarnów

The Sephardic Arab Jew Who Persecuted Mexican Catholics One of the most hidden episodes of history was the brutal religious persecution in Mexico between 1926 and 1929, where thousands of Catholics were killed for defending their faith. Everything was orchestrated by the regime of the Sephardic Arab Jew Plutarco Elias Calles, president of Mexico, a confessed Freemason and a declared enemy of Christianity. With the infamous Calles Law, he unleashed a true war against God: he banned masses, expelled priests, and closed temples. This brutal repression was the spark that ignited the Cristero uprising, where thousands of Catholics took up arms with the cry of “Long Live Christ the King!”. He looks a lot like Sephardic Arab Jew Fuentes, who minimizes the crimes of Epstein and spends time with shills like Tate and others. @edomisidumea

The Herodian Usurpation and the Art of Survival: Why would the Herodian dynasty go into deep hiding? Because they attempted the ultimate geopolitical coup: usurping the Davidic throne. ○ 125BC: Hasmonean conversion. Edomites / Idumeans forcibly absorbed into Judea. ○ 37BC: The Herodian Coup. Herod the Great usurps the throne, attempts to liquidate the Davidic line (The Massacre of the Innocents). ○ 70 - 100AD: The Roman Collapse. Jerusalem falls. The Herodians, backed by Roman elite, flee to Rome, Southern Italy, and Western trade ports. ○ The Crypo-Elite Strategy: Edomites discard the name "Herod," blend into the Western Diaspora, and preserve the elite Y-DNA (G-M377) via endogamy. When Herod the Great (an Idumean/Edomite) was installed by the Roman Senate as King of the Jews, he knew his throne was illegitimate in the eyes of Torah-observant Israelites. To secure his usurpation, he ruthlessly hunted down the surviving remnants of the Hasmonean and Davidic bloodlines. The Gospel of Matthew's account of the Massacre of the Innocents was a targeted, clinical attempt by an Edomite king to eliminate the prophesied Messiah of the line of David. When the Jewish-Roman wars culminated in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, the Herodian elite didn't perish in the trenches with the zealots. They were Roman citizens, heavily intermarried with Roman aristocracy. They took their immense wealth, abandoned the toxic, compromised brand name of "Herod," and dissolved into the western trade ports of Rome, Sicily, and Central Europe. By embedding themselves deep within the emerging Western Jewish diaspora, they achieved perfect cover. To the outside world, they were simply part of the displaced Judean population. But underneath, carrying the ultra-rare, hyper-resilient G-M377 Y-chromosome, they preserved the ancient genetic memory of the Edomite kings, hiding in plain sight, waiting for the curtain to rise on the final geopolitical act. If we unmask the data and look strictly at the raw distribution of Haplogroup G-M3115 (and its downstream child G-M377), a hidden geographical and linguistic pattern emerges. It bridges the biblical landscapes of the Levant directly to the strongholds of Eurasia. By superimposing our revised timeline, where G-M3115 functions as the patriarchal trunk of Esau/Edom, the modern descendant populations cease to be random anomalies. Instead, they represent a deliberate, aristocratic diaspora strategically positioned along the veins of ancient global commerce. ○ The connection between the Idumean elite and the early Roman senatorial families. ○ The specific biblical geography linking the mountains of Seir to the early migrations into the Caucasus. ○ How modern genetic sequence databases can be audited by independent researchers to bypass mainstream academic filters. G2a Israelites (Hebrews from Iberia aka Kartli) moved to R1b Egypt from the Caucasus to get away from J2 Arabs (Kura-Araxes 'flood' of J2 into Ararat, and their Canaanite Mokhrablur altars). Edomites (G2b-M377 e.g. Roth/Herzl/Schwab/Soros/Cohen/Khan/Friedman etc) mixed with Hamites (E1b1b), Canaanites (J1/J2a Arabs) and Neanderthals (N1b Horites/Nesher Ramla). @edomisidumea

G2a Israelites (Hebrews from Iberia aka Kartli) moved to Egypt from the Caucasus to get away from J2 Arabs (Kura-Araxes 'flood' of J2 into Ararat, and their Canaanite Mokrablur altars). Edomites (G2b-M377 e.g. Roth/Herzl/Schwab/Soros/Cohen/Khan/Friedman etc) mixed with Hamites (E1b1b), Canaanites (J1/J2a Arabs) and Neanderthals (N1b Horites/Nesher Ramla). @edomisidumea

Realizing Europeans are Israel and Ashkenazi are Edom makes the entire sequence of events make sense This is true, but it's only G2b-M377 who are Semitic (7% of Ash Kenaz, the "Ashkenazi Modal Haplotype" e.g. Roth/Herzl/Soros/Schwab/Friedman/Cohen etc). They're Edomite Semites. G2a are Israelites. R1b is Egyptian royalty. J is Canaanites. E is Ham, G is Shem, and IJK are Japeth. The others basically weren't there after the flood except N (Horites/Nesher Ramla). That's my assumption currently. @edomisidumea

Recent Haplogroup G2b-M377 Edomite activity in England ○ G2b-M377 Fox poses with a 100% non-White non-English entourage ○ G2b-M377 Cooper fast tracks asylum seekers while DEI rages ○ G2b-M377 Cohen welcomes Senegalese immigrants while birth rates are all time low ○ G2b-M377 Miller is repping a Nigerian candidate ○ G2b-M377 Rosenberg denied Kanye's entrance ○ G2b-M377 Khan says getting stabbed is part of living in a city Roth, Herzl, Schwab, Soros, Friedman are all G2b-M377 as well. Noticing the pattern yet? Incidentally, G2a is concentrated on every foundational Christian church. @edomisidumea

G2a Israelites and R1b Egyptian Royalty mixed organically and R1b mostly absorbed G2a The G2a Israelites (aka Hebrews from Iberia aka Kartli) probably moved to Egypt from the Caucasus to get away from J2 Arabs (lookup the Kura-Araxes 'flood' of J2 into Ararat, and the Mokrablur sacrificial site not long after these Arabs arrived there). Yuya (great grandfather of Tutunkhamem) was a mix of R1b and G2a, and Senenmut is probably Moses since Hyksos were Shepherd Kings. Edomites (G2b-M377) however, mixed with Hamites, Canaanites (Arabs) and Neanderthals (N1b Horites aka Nesher Ramla). Anyway TLDR, the Israelite Exodus happened after the Santorini volcano erupted circa 1600BC. The Edomite Exodus happened in waves after every Israelite captivity that they helped orchestrate, mostly to Dagestan originally. @edomisidumea

Eventually, more people will realize Canaanites (aka Geonim/Kohanim/Afro-Arabs) outnumber Edomites 10x at least This includes many Muslims, whether you want to admit that or not. Canaanites are fundamentally the root of the entire cabal. This is mostly Haplogroup J1 and J2a, with some E1b1b/N1b Neanderthal (probably Nesher Ramla and Hamadryas). G2b-M377 Edomites are their blood brothers and their enablers, being used for infiltration and optics. While Edomites follow Qos, Canaanites are the source of the similarly archaic Baal cult, aka serpent cult. The Sumerians debated whether to fully remove the older species (tablet VAT-19084), which I believe they are. They decided not to. The fact that the Edomites worship Saturn (the first sun when the sky was purple) with the Teffelin shows that they are the old species, as I'm sure the Canaanites are as well. The Sumerians created the rest of us to replace them but at the last minute decided to save them since they were created for manual labor. @edomisidumea

An illustration of Jerusalem in 1735 Doesn't look very Arab (aka Canaanite/serpent cult) to me. It looks exactly how I'd expect it to look, given Haplogroup G Hebrews were originally a Northern Iranic/Eastern Anatolian tribe from near the Caspian Sea and Kartli, aka Iberia. @edomisidumea

Responding to "aren't Yemenis Semites?" Davidic law: bloodline descendants of Shem (G2a Israelites, G2b Ishmaelites and G2c Edomites changed to G2b-M377) Africans: "I speak a semitic (European) language" "Cohen Modal Haplotype": J1/J2 Refer to: https://t.me/edomisidumea/501 @edomisidumea