Edom is Idumea

Interesting debate on Corded Ware vs Yamnaya Not sure I agree with Gauss here, he has the same outlook on haplogroups that the 'system' has on gender. Many people claim Haplogroup R was separated from the others around 50,000 years ago until around the Younger Dryas, but the Barbary Maqacue is indigenous to North Africa and Western Europe, which seems to be a direct match genetically. Even if you ignore evolution as I do and believe in creation, this proves we have been in North Africa for millenia. I think Harry McAque is correct, there's a primal rivalry between Maqacue/Chimpanzee (Hoohoo) together against Hamadryas Baboon (Yahwee).

Theodore Illion, Bonpa, Quaternity, Montsegur, Agartha, Mithras, Metatron, Enoch and John Dee Written by Nick Hinton @edomisidumea

Ancient Symbol Systems & Knowledge ○ Gradeshnitsa Tablet → Hieroglyphs ○ Dispilio Tablet → Semitic Languages ○ Basque Moldings → Celto-Persian Influence ○ Nebra Sky Disc → Early Astronomy ○ Antikythera Mechanism → Maths ○ Swabian Jura → Cuneiform All of these languages were created by the Global North. Remember your roots as we reclaim the Arctic Axis and take back the map. [Version 2] @edomisidumea

Ancient Symbol Systems & Knowledge ○ Gradeshnitsa Tablet → Hieroglyphs ○ Dispilio Tablet → Semitic Languages ○ Basque Moldings → Celto-Persian Influence ○ Nebra Sky Disc → Early Astronomy ○ Antikythera Mechanism → Maths ○ Swabian Jura → Cuneiform All of these languages were created by the Global North. Remember your roots as we reclaim the Arctic Axis and take back the map. @edomisidumea

Yahweh vs Hoohoo Reimagining ancient rivalries from primal foundations. I believe in creation, not evolution, I still think we were made from 'clay', which might be these older species. Which one will you side with? Were we tricked into naming their god? Based on a concept by Harry McAque @edomisidumea

Arkitect Grover: the Ghost West Denisovan Dzuzuana Holy Grail My West Eurasian 63% is lower than typical Northwestern European because the genome is extremely ancient in its structure. It preserves massive amounts of pre-Bell-Beaker, pre-LBK, pre-Steppe ancestry that has been diluted out of most modern Northwestern Europeans through thousands of years of population mixing that the colonial endogamy prevented. The South Asian 12% is the Sintashta Indo-Iranian bridge, the road south from the Steppe that the ancestors did not take but whose genetic signature they carried. Created for Arkitect Grover to help identify the Dzuzuana Holy Grail founding European lineage. Note: this isn't related to Edom at all, it's to help show that Europe has many of its own ancient heritages. @edomisidumea

Asking AI to assume Haplogroup G2a split 3 ways (Ham, Japheth and Shem) to support possible new theory I don't know how it got to G-FGC31712 being Edomites but I asked it to assume G-M377 was Cain/Kenites and that G2a split 3 directions. G2a-Ham: G2a-M406 headed south to the Levant/Egypt, the line of Ham and Canaan. They began the tradition of incestuous pharaohs sitting at the top of a ethnic caste system that overturned every time New invaders came into Egypt (J1, J2 pharaohs, then R1b, then E1b1b, I think.... I need to do more digging on haplogroup precession among Pharoahs). G2a-H brought agriculture to Egypt, got super inbred, and the only ones who survived to the present (in modern Egyptians and Palestinians) were the ones willing to mix with the J1, J2, T, E1b1b, and other peoples who likely came with a darker phenotype...the browning of Egypt. G2a-Japheth: G2a-P303 left Göbekli Tepe and migrated into Europe spreading agriculture until I1 and I2 (European indigenous hunter-gatherers) adopted the technologies and experienced a major population explosion. So, Europe went from unpopulated to almost 100% G2a-P303, then it became about an 80/20 mix of I1/G2a-P303 in NW Europe, for example. Then, when the Yamnaya came in, the I1, I2, and G2a-P303 were marginalized and ended up in genetic island.... mountains or literal islands. Then came the R1b Yamnaya, the J2 expansion unto the Mediterranean and Southern Europe. At that point, Europe was like 80% R1b, 15% I1, and 5% G2a in the north and maybe similar in the south but with J2. The Bronze Age and then the Horse + Iron technology + Chariots/Saddles mobilized everyone even more. G2a-Shem: G2a-P15 remained the Shemetic core of the Caucasus with some small groups (like Kaldu/Chaldean) migrating down into Mesopotamia (which had been transformed by Cain's spread of knowledge, Cain being be actual catalyst for civilization in Genesis). The Kaldu move from Lebanon mountains to Mesopotamia, living as nomadic pastoralists on the plains, basically mobile ranchers who sell meat to the Cities they camp next to. G2a-P15 Chaldean "Abram" goes to Egypt, where the Inbred G2a-M406 Ham Pharoahs are inbred, sick, and desperate for new blood. Although Yuya was G2a-P15 (Shem?). Anyways....I haven't tickled apart the details but somehow a small group of P15 established itself in the Levant/Egypt and became Israel. But this means that the Edomites are now a branch of G2a-P15. And it gave me G-FGC31712 as the most probable marker, explaining why it is unique/indigenous to Jews, like G-M377. So....I've had a headache the past couple days trying to move the gears and puzzle pieces around a bit but I definitely think G-M377 is the key that decodes the whole thing and it fits perfectly for either Cain or Esau but if it is Cain, that means that the Esau slot must be filled from among the Jews. Ultimately, it appears that the "bloodline" aspects of the Genesis story are basically a family photo album for a branch of G, begging the question of whether they were aware of all the other humans on earth, which I think they likely were. There must have been a great cataclysm of some sort to separate the humans for tens of thousands of years in distant starting points on the map. (I wish I could just use Sid Meiers's Civilization or Medieval Total War) to map out the entirety of the Bible and make a coherent movie about it. What more are they hiding? Alas, I don't know for sure but, either way G-M377 is the key to unraveling the Jewish genetic map and the whole mideast. Written by Orpheus @edomisidumea

Are Rus, Sumer, Tartarian the same people

New theory: G-M3115/G-M377 as Cain/Kenites and G2a subclade G-FGC31712 as Edom I changed my mind on the whole phylogeny...I had to go back father. G-M3115 lines up perfectly with Cain and the Kenites line up perfectly downstream as G-M377, which makes my entire old phylogenetic tree null and void. The entire story is G, the R and I people aren't Japhethites, they're off genetic map in Genesis.... basically when Genesis was written, the only other people that the G-tribe had met were likely J2. I basically think Adam was G and the whole Bible is an astromythological work started at Göbekli Tepe. Herod and the Idumeans are actually G-FGC31712, which is a branch of G2a Adam, G2a-P15 "Shem". Basically, even the Herodians are G2a. And again, I'm not 100% certain. G-M377 was definitely the Jewish genetic anomaly that led me to look for Edom but I didn't think about the Kenites being much older. So I basically corrected a hole in the story, I think. Again, I'm not 100% but G-M3115/G-M377 Cain/Kenites and G2a-P15/G-FGC31712 is the next clear candidate in line for Herodians based on the current Jewish population, which I think really is the decipher (along with the Bible and modern genetics), the key to the whole Biblical map. I think there was another reset before "Adam" and that somehow all the branches of the original man (long before Adam) got really geographically-isolated from each other for like 50,000 years or something. I wonder what it was like living in a time of Neanderthals. I do think there are older secrets than Eden that they are hiding. Written by Orpheus @edomisidumea

The lines are so mixed now that it's almost impossible to delineate. Also, J1/J2 (imo Canaanites) outnumber Haplogroup G 10x, that's the reality. The Jacob vs. Esau story is ending in mutual destruction. In fact, it's likely Esau has always been beholden to Canaanites since the start. I've tried to capture that on this page while offering some answers to who Edom is.

The Crusades were a response to over 400 years of Islamic aggression against Christians and Europe

7% of Ashkenazim are G2b-M377 aka the "Ashkenazi Modal Haplotype" aka The Edomites, e.g. Herzl, Roth, Schwab, Soros. 93% aren't Semites. Only G is Shem. R1b absorbed G2a, the Israelites. J1/2 is Canaanites aka (Geonim/Kohanim). G2a Israelites G2b-M377 Edomites J1/J2 Canaanites @edomisidumea

14 books were removed from the New Testament by Edomites in Rome The Book of Tobit The Book of Judith The Book of Ester The Book of Baruch The Book of Sirach (or The Book of Ecclesiasticus) The Wisdom of Solomon The Prayer of Azariah and Song of the Three Holy Children The Story of Susanna The Story of Bel and The Dragon The Prayer of Manasseh 1 Maccabees 2 Maccabees 1 Esdras 2 Esdras The whole concept of Hell was also a gross mistranslation of the idea of “burning off Karma,” as prognosticated in The Synchronicity Key, with the word we now call “Eternity” (Aion) simply meaning “A cycle of time”. The “Eternal Hell” we were warned about is not some cosmic purgatory we experience after death. It is happening now — and the flames are hotter than ever. During the Second Council of Constantinople in 553 A.D., the Roman Empire felt that the teaching of reincarnation was such a threat to their control over the masses that it was to be made illegal. Credit: ExposingEvil704 @edomisidumea

The Unified Prehistoric Baboon Genesis Theory Original concept by Harry McAque @edomisidumea

The House Of Orsini originates from Babylon They appropriated the bear for themselves when they defeated Mago in the Punic Wars (Mahona). Scythia under the Great Bear. They stole the language of the Scythians (who were Slavs) and destroyed Scythopolis. Sources: RomanEmpire1993 and OlgaVadima @edomisidumea

"Didn't read" probably means you're an Edomite construct of attention spans operating on dial-up internet speeds

Phylogeography of Haplogroups G2a and G2b-M377/M283 (Karlani clade) Examples of Haplogroup G2b-M377 surnames: Roth, Herzl, Schwab, Soros, Fink, Friedman, Khan, Shapiro, Goldberg, Greenberg, Klein, Miller, Cooper, Silver, Block, Zivin, Wolfson, Ronin, Sachs, Borek, Gunst, Elbaum, Jackson, Stern, Schreier, Moseley, Szevin, Wolins, Weiss, Colonell, Burtnick, Bolnick, Bauer. And a very small number of Smith, Brown, and Gordon (anglicized proto-pharma names). Kenaz was Esau's grandson (Genesis 36), and Amalek, Herod, Haman, Hadad, and Judas were all Edomites. Edomites lived apart from the Israelites (G2a) for 2000 years before Jesus, in Jordan (aka Edom/Idumea), where they ran proto-pharma with J1/J2 Canaanites. Haplogroup G2a were Hebrews in Kartli, aka Iberia, also known as Sakae. They moved into Egypt after the Kura-Araxes flood of Haplogroup J2 Canaanites into Homogenous G Ararat. Confirmed G2b-M283 Karlani-Edomite surnames: Khel, Waziri, Wazir, Gazi, Zazi, Khattak, Wardak, Nawab, Durrani. @edomisidumea

Confirmed G2b-M377 Edomite surnames on familytreedna: Silvers, Block, Zivin, Wolfson, Ronin, Schneegurt, Friede, Albert, Landes, Firestone, Otterman, Straus, Weiner, Kopolow, Melik-Heikerzian, Sachs, Borek, Gunst, Elbaum, Jackson, Just, Zold, Trunk, Wayne, Kurtz, Krotenberg, Ladyjensky, Golson, Francisco, Feldman, Gould, Stern, Schreier, Moseley, Szevin, Wolins, Weiss, Colonell, Burtnick, Bolnick, Bauer, Cigliano, White, Levenson, Linder, Shornick, Connuck Confirmed G2b-M283 Karlani-Edomite surnames on familytreedna: Khel, Waziri, Wazir, Gazi, Zazi, Khattak, Wardak, Nawab, Durrani @edomisidumea

G2a Israelites vs G2b Ishmaelites vs G2c Edomites G2c was changed to G2b-M377 in 2012. J1/J2 is Canaanites aka Geonim aka Kohanim. Haplogroup J includes Bantu, Sudanese, Somalis, and Jordanians, explaining half Edomite (G2b-M377) half Canaanite (J1) Herod. @edomisidumea

Haplogroup J1 includes Bantu, Sudanese, Alawis and Somalis as well as Jordanians. This explains half Edomite half Canaanite Herod. G2b-M377: Edomites G2a: Israelites J1/J2: Canaanites